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Old 02-22-2021, 01:31 PM   #241
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Old 02-22-2021, 11:15 PM   #242
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Aside from a handful of films like Guardians, Thor and Iron Man (years ago) I haven't really watched any of the MCU movies. Would this show still be enjoyable or would I need way more information to understand what's going on? A lot of our friends and family are watching this and enjoying it. Thinking about jumping on board but want to make sure we won't be totally lost.
Really with that view history, that amount of time, and access to Disney+, if I were you I would watch Avengers 1 & Winter Soldier.

I'd say you can barebones the franchise down to;

Thor 1
Avengers
Winter Soldier
Dark World
Ultron
Guardians 1
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I wouldn't bother with Wandavision before having seen those 12 in pretty much that order. As an added bonus at least 7/12 of those are substantially more entertaining that.



Captain America and Captain Marvel are outside of the main timeline, and some easter eggs rippling through the other movies, but you won't miss the context. Edit, onsecond thought the Captain Marvel movie is important to Wandavision.

The Ironman series is an oddly stand alone series within the context of the MCU, they build up Ironman as an important character, and they are amoung the better movies, but Downy Jrs strong enough to re-contextualize the character in all the other movies. None of the villains, conflicts from Ironman really trickle into the main storyline they way they have with the other movies.

Unless you need the origin story, Civil War gives you all the intro you need to Antman & Spiderman

Guardians Vol II, I suspect will be important to understanding Guardians III, the Eternals, and probably Love & Thunder / Avengers 5. But I don't think it's vital viewing yet.

The Hulk Movie barely counts as an MCU movie.

Missing Black panther will leave you wondering where a bunch of tertiary characters in other movies came from, but it wont really change your understanding of the main story.

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Old 02-26-2021, 02:44 AM   #244
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Episode 8 made me say "...well... I guess..."
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Old 02-26-2021, 03:47 AM   #245
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Pretty big post-credits scene BTW.
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Yep, full episode of exposition from the writers, not going to be the most entertaining episode. I think the Hex will end, but I don't think we are headed for a clean conclusion to this story. Agatha will soften and we won't be 100% sure that she is the "bad" guy. Hayward is a bastard, but It's not like he'll say hail hydra at the end, Bizzaro Vision will leave us wondering if he is good or bad.
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Old 02-26-2021, 11:01 AM   #247
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I thought this was the best episode yet and I was going in expecting to be disappointed by some cheesy climax. Lots of great scenes, performances and world building. I didn't care much for wanda or vision going into this, but now I'm considering renewing for another month just for the last episode.

Agatha seems to be curious more than anything, she casually gave wanda her power and freedom back. She might be setting up a final attack, but she's in awe of wanda at this point.
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I thought this was the best episode yet and I was going in expecting to be disappointed by some cheesy climax. Lots of great scenes, performances and world building. I didn't care much for wanda or vision going into this, but now I'm considering renewing for another month just for the last episode.

Agatha seems to be curious more than anything, she casually gave wanda her power and freedom back. She might be setting up a final attack, but she's in awe of wanda at this point.
I think this is kind of what aggravates me about this show.

It has a neat idea, and a good premise. Wanda is likable, I could ditch Vision.

There are good bones to this show but it just isnt engaging. Frankly, the ditzy Doctor lady is the best character in the show.

Beyond that, its been a chore to get through. I'm still plowing through because I feel confident that this is a show that needs some time to find its groove and get its feet under it and it will get better.

I wouldnt re-up Disney+ just for this show though. No way.
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I'm still plowing through because I feel confident that this is a show that needs some time to find its groove and get its feet under it and it will get better.
There's only one episode left. If it hasn't drawn you in yet, I don't know if it will ever get there.
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There's only one episode left. If it hasn't drawn you in yet, I don't know if it will ever get there.
Oh. I guess I just assumed there would be another season.

If there isnt then yeah. Not good.
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So Ultron is definitely finally getting the Vision body, right? There's no way that's gonna actually be Vision, it has to be Ultron.
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I thought that episode was terrific. Looking forward to the climax.
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Pretty big post-credits scene BTW.
Such a dumb practice. I really really wish they'd stop this.
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So Ultron is definitely finally getting the Vision body, right? There's no way that's gonna actually be Vision, it has to be Ultron.
Ultron never inhabited the vibranium body, so I doubt it.
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It’s going to be an evil vision for sure, I really hope spader is back as the voice and they leave it ambiguous whether he is Ultron or not.

He won’t be as powerful as vision or ultron as both were created by the mind stone rather than created by someone who was created by the mind stone.

I think how this ends is pretty obvious. I have no for knowledge but have put my speculation in spoilers

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I doubt we find out anymore about where Fietro came from. They will leave it ambiguous to be ret conned later for dr strange or future x men

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I had fun with that episode.
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Ultron never inhabited the vibranium body, so I doubt it.

In Infinity War they specifically talk about how Vision is made up of the Mind Stone, Jarvis, Ultron. In Age of Ultron, Ultron was in the process of trying to upload himself into the body, so it's entirely possible part of him is still in there.
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In the comic world, Ultron comes back a million times. So bringing him back this way would fit and would make a cool big bad. However, I wish they would have done it earlier. We are 8/9th through the series and don't really have a big bad yet. It appears Agatha wasn't even enabling Wanda here, but rather just trying to learn how she did it.

There were moments in the last episode where I thought Hayward was going to be more than meets the eye. When he was hinting to Wanda that she has the power to bring him back, I was thinking that maybe he was Mephisto or something, but it looks like he's not that cool and just a typical flat generic military/government type villain that's trying to turn Vision's body into a weapon.
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In Infinity War they specifically talk about how Vision is made up of the Mind Stone, Jarvis, Ultron. In Age of Ultron, Ultron was in the process of trying to upload himself into the body, so it's entirely possible part of him is still in there.
Good catch, had forgotten about that. Vision may have even said something like that in Age of Ultron, if I recall correctly.
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