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Old 11-14-2019, 12:42 PM   #901
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So this happened, before the shooting this morning.

https://twitter.com/user/status/1195049808345620480
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Old 11-14-2019, 02:08 PM   #902
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Only one dead? Yawn
A second person has died from the shooting, a 16-year-old girl and a 14-year-old boy.
https://www.msn.com/en-ca/news/world...w7B?li=AAggNb9


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Old 12-10-2019, 04:33 PM   #903
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https://www.msn.com/en-ca/news/world...cid=spartanntp

6 killed in Jersey City, including one officer. Weird story, as it wasn't a terror related shooting. Police mentioned that they were under fire for hours at two locations.
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Old 12-12-2019, 09:16 AM   #904
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You know what stops a bad guy with a gun? A good guy with a gun.
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6 killed in Jersey City, including one officer.
You know what stops a bad guy with a gun? Two or more good guys with guns.

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… well, s--t.
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Old 12-30-2019, 05:31 AM   #905
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Parishioners kill man who fatally shoots 2 at church

"Authorities at a Sunday evening news conference praised the two congregants who opened fire as part of a volunteer security team."

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Old 12-30-2019, 08:29 AM   #906
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Parishioners kill man who fatally shoots 2 at church

"Authorities at a Sunday evening news conference praised the two congregants who opened fire as part of a volunteer security team."

https://www.msn.com/en-ca/news/world...id=mailsignout
The guy that shot the killer drew his gun and neutralized him with a single shot within 2 seconds of the gunman opening fire. I'd hate to imagine how many people would have lost their lives if these folks weren't allowed to protect themselves.

The classic line of "seconds matter when the police are minutes away" seems to come to mind here.
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Old 12-30-2019, 08:57 AM   #907
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The guy that shot the killer drew his gun and neutralized him with a single shot within 2 seconds of the gunman opening fire. I'd hate to imagine how many people would have lost their lives if these folks weren't allowed to protect themselves.

The classic line of "seconds matter when the police are minutes away" seems to come to mind here.
that is definitely the case it seems here based on the news story. So "volunteer security", were they there armed and ready for violence? Is this a regular thing, during each event at the church are people being "hired" as volunteers as security with loaded guns?

That would be another story altogether!
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Old 12-30-2019, 09:00 AM   #908
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living in a country where you need to pack a gun to church to avoid being shot to death.
1st or 3rd world activities?
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Old 12-30-2019, 09:03 AM   #909
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The guy that shot the killer drew his gun and neutralized him with a single shot within 2 seconds of the gunman opening fire. I'd hate to imagine how many people would have lost their lives if these folks weren't allowed to protect themselves.

The classic line of "seconds matter when the police are minutes away" seems to come to mind here.
Yay! The good guy with a gun finally got one. What's that make it? Like a hundred thousand to one?
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Old 12-30-2019, 10:24 AM   #910
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I was at Cabellas in Everett WA on the weekend. There was a long line-up of people buying hand guns.
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Old 12-30-2019, 10:30 AM   #911
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Hope they were all in the "Good People" lineup
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Old 12-30-2019, 10:32 AM   #912
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Yay! The good guy with a gun finally got one. What's that make it? Like a hundred thousand to one?
Well they were a volunteer security team so not random good guys with guns and at least one of the two fatalities was a member of the security team.

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Old 12-30-2019, 01:12 PM   #913
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Guy was carrying a shot gun? And got up to talk to someone at the back of the church? Was obviously not trying to get the drop on someone.

Not the usual mass shooting for certain. Shot guns are pretty useless as a weapon in a mass shooting. They’re slow to cycle and have a low capacity. I don’t see this as an argument for more guns or guns in certain places or even different gun laws. This was just a strange incident all around.
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Old 12-30-2019, 04:49 PM   #914
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Are you kidding?
A scattergun in close quarters is absolutely devastating, and that's without bringing up semis or rotary mags.

Anyways, horrible situation and in a place where people should feel safest... glad it wasnt worse than it already is.
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Are you kidding?
A scattergun in close quarters is absolutely devastating, and that's without bringing up semis or rotary mags.

Anyways, horrible situation and in a place where people should feel safest... glad it wasnt worse than it already is.
Except that he didn't have that type of weapon. Not much thought went into this based on reports, which likely contributed to the lack of body count. It was very fortunate all around.
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Old 12-30-2019, 05:56 PM   #916
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Are you kidding?
A scattergun in close quarters is absolutely devastating, and that's without bringing up semis or rotary mags.

Anyways, horrible situation and in a place where people should feel safest... glad it wasnt worse than it already is.
I always cringe at that statement "a place where people should feel safest". What changes a person's right or hope for safety based on what building they're in?

Seems like more of a past centuries statement. A mall, a school, a church, etc . It's all the same with innocent people who should be "safest" in many different public places.
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I always cringe at that statement "a place where people should feel safest". What changes a person's right or hope for safety based on what building they're in?

Seems like more of a past centuries statement. A mall, a school, a church, etc . It's all the same with innocent people who should be "safest" in many different public places.
Well, one would think a church on sunday would be safer than say, Chicagos east side on friday night. Law of averages.
Sucks either way, no disagreement there.
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Except that he didn't have that type of weapon. Not much thought went into this based on reports, which likely contributed to the lack of body count. It was very fortunate all around.
Ok.
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Old 12-30-2019, 06:36 PM   #919
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Well, one would think a church on sunday would be safer than say, Chicagos east side on friday night. Law of averages.
Sucks either way, no disagreement there.
Oh okay, I misread your intent on that statement. I thought you meant they deserved to be safer because they were Christians in a church, but I see you just meant statistically safer than a more dangerous setting.

Although, in the south it seems church's are actually a popular target these days, no?
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Old 12-30-2019, 06:54 PM   #920
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Well, one would think a church on sunday would be safer than say, Chicagos east side on friday night. Law of averages.
Sucks either way, no disagreement there.
Unless of course the church is in Chicago's east side.
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