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Old 03-07-2024, 05:02 PM   #41
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New Jersey is also trading Toffoli.

Unless they get another forward back, I don't think they will trade away another forward for a goalie.
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Old 03-07-2024, 05:02 PM   #42
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Oh, Flames ownership incorrectly evaluating talent and chances of a playoff position?

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Old 03-07-2024, 05:03 PM   #43
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Markstrom is gone if he really is on record saying that, how stupid - let’s get in your goaltenders heads with what if scenarios on a possible trade when you are 8-10 points out and just unloaded 2 of your top 4 lol!!
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Old 03-07-2024, 05:04 PM   #44
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This is 100% a negotiation tactic.

Jesus people it's the same thing as when the car salesman says "Yeah, I'm going to have to talk to my manager about that price."
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Old 03-07-2024, 05:08 PM   #47
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This is 100% a negotiation tactic.

Jesus people it's the same thing as when the car salesman says "Yeah, I'm going to have to talk to my manager about that price."
Less than 24h to confirm if this is true.
They won’t get more for Markstrom than right now, so no trade would coincide with their thoughts of “making it” this year.
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Jesus people it's the same thing as when the car salesman says "Yeah, I'm going to have to talk to my manager about that price."
Oldest trick in the book
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Old 03-07-2024, 05:08 PM   #49
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Old 03-07-2024, 05:10 PM   #50
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Less than 24h to confirm if this is true.
They won’t get more for Markstrom than right now, so no trade would coincide with their thoughts of “making it” this year.
Hard to know what the market for Markstrom will be in the summer right now.
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Old 03-07-2024, 05:11 PM   #51
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Thank you Connie for drawing that line!

Those two pieces are a must. Ball's in fitzy's court.
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Old 03-07-2024, 05:12 PM   #52
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Book it

Fitz trades Toffoli and misses the playoff, while Marky carries the flames into final playoff spot. Then Fitz get the boot.
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Old 03-07-2024, 05:12 PM   #53
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Why is this so complicated. They don’t need a pick . Mercer straight across for Markstrom
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Yeah, if this is true then Edwards is stupid, and does anyone think he's stupid? Trading Hanifin and Tanev means you're not making the playoffs.
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This team is not a contender, if they can get Mercer straight up they should jump on it.
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Old 03-07-2024, 05:16 PM   #56
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I think some reporters try to draw a line between certain things and an assumption that Edwards is influencing some of this.
But it just doesn't jive that Edwards would allow the trading off of so many good players, and think that somehow this is still a good team, and therefore they should hang on to Markstrom.

Now if I was to guess, I do think that he will demand an accelerated re-build and may not appreciate that it's not going to be a 2-3 year thing.

But do I believe he is directing the team to not trade Markstrom now to try and win now still. No I don't.
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Old 03-07-2024, 05:16 PM   #58
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Why not try this to get the return you want if you are a Conroy? Not sure what the problem is.
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Ok Spurs. We get it. Everything about the Flames sucks and they are the worst.

Good grief.
Ok, we get it. You can't stand anyone else's opinion. On a forum. On the internet.

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Listening to him, I felt Dreger was doing a fair amount of supposing and guessing vs knowing.

I can see the ownership/management rationale to publicly be optimistic. If you say “we think we can win”, you add more interest/excitement and may get a few more people out to the game. If you say “we’re packing it in” then who is going to buy a ticket? That makes sense to me. As a leader you need to convey optimism and hope to your employees and your constituents to get results. I don’t believe The Flames are in the same financial position or marketing position as The Rangers and can take out a full page in the newspaper and say “we’re going to suck now to be better soon” without it hurting.
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