04-29-2024, 12:28 PM
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Oct 2001
Location: Ontario
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Kraken eat their coach (Hakstol fired)
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04-29-2024, 12:28 PM
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#2
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First Line Centre
Join Date: Jan 2012
Location: Ontario
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I don't think he's a great coach, but they totally overachieved last season.
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04-29-2024, 12:29 PM
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#3
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Oct 2014
Location: Springbank
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Ped
I don't think he's a great coach, but they totally overachieved last season.
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Yeah he’s a scapegoat for unrealistic expectations this year. Look at the makeup of that team.
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04-29-2024, 12:31 PM
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#4
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damn onions
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It was a bit of an odd hiring to begin with.
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04-29-2024, 12:32 PM
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#5
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Draft Pick
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Hakstol isn't the reason the Kraken sucked. They overachieved big time last year. Not that Dave is a top coach either but still.
Wonder if Gallant gets a chance here ��
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04-29-2024, 12:34 PM
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#6
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Franchise Player
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they should have fired whoever came up with that "release the Kracken" promo.
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04-29-2024, 12:37 PM
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It was a strange hiring to begin with.
Francis should be the one to go as well, he didn't draft a very good team to begin with.
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04-29-2024, 12:43 PM
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First Line Centre
Join Date: Apr 2022
Location: California
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Paulie Walnuts
It was a strange hiring to begin with.
Francis should be the one to go as well, he didn't draft a very good team to begin with.
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He didn't, but I think teams learned quickly from the "You can have Marchessault for free if you trade us a 4th rounder for Reilly Smith" days.
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04-29-2024, 12:50 PM
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Sep 2015
Location: Paradise
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Quote:
Originally Posted by butterfly
He didn't, but I think teams learned quickly from the "You can have Marchessault for free if you trade us a 4th rounder for Reilly Smith" days.
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Or you can have Theodore instead of Josh Manson.
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04-29-2024, 12:53 PM
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#10
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Oct 2006
Location: San Fernando Valley
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Mr.Coffee
It was a bit of an odd hiring to begin with.
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Yeah it was kind of an underwhelming hire as the organization's first head coach. I can't say he was bad because they overachieved last season but the roster still needs a lot of work so I don't know if the locker room was maybe getting tired of the message or if someone had to pay the price for failing to meet raised expectations.
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04-29-2024, 01:16 PM
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Taking a while to get to 5000
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Didn't they just extend him also?
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04-29-2024, 01:19 PM
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#12
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Franchise Player
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Toonage
Didn't they just extend him also?
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Yup.
2 years last July, the extension didn't kick in yet much like the Sutter extension.
Makes you wonder if the same situation happened after exit interviews like it did here.
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04-29-2024, 01:20 PM
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Franchise Player
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Another one bites the dust...more to come!
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04-29-2024, 01:21 PM
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Backup Goalie
Join Date: Mar 2024
Location: Victoria, BC
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Word has it he'll be joining the Oilers to become Knoblauch's body double.
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04-29-2024, 01:23 PM
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Taking a while to get to 5000
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Originally Posted by Paulie Walnuts
Yup.
2 years last July, the extension didn't kick in yet much like the Sutter extension.
Makes you wonder if the same situation happened after exit interviews like it did here.
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Keefe also about the get canned (I would imagine) before his extension kicks in. Feels like contract extensions are the new Jack Adams when it comes to the coaching kiss of death.
As for being Sutteresque with his players, I don't see it. Maybe, but I've never heard any rumors or stories of Hakstol being a jerk.
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04-29-2024, 01:27 PM
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Franchise Player
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Toonage
Keefe also about the get canned (I would imagine) before his extension kicks in. Feels like contract extensions are the new Jack Adams when it comes to the coaching kiss of death.
As for being Sutteresque with his players, I don't see it. Maybe, but I've never heard any rumors or stories of Hakstol being a jerk.
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I see no reason to fire him otherwise and pay him 2 years to go away.
It's not like this is a contender or anything that had a bad year.
Keefe was a Shanahan and Dubas guy. I am not sure Shanny will allow his guy to be fired just yet.
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04-29-2024, 01:29 PM
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#17
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Oct 2006
Location: San Fernando Valley
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Problem is that the average head coach tenure is <3 years so once a head coach gets extended, the odds are high that he never coaches out the deal. Really as a GM you are probably best to carry any head coach out to his lame duck season and extend during the season if things are still heading in the right direction. Extending a year or two early seems to be a waste of ownership money in a lot of cases.
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04-29-2024, 01:31 PM
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#1 Goaltender
Join Date: Feb 2014
Location: Uranus
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Samonadreau
Or you can have Theodore instead of Josh Manson.
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Some GMs learned nothing and were still willing to give them Mark Giordano for nothing....
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04-29-2024, 01:32 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Erick Estrada
Problem is that the average head coach tenure is <3 years so once a head coach gets extended, the odds are high that he never coaches out the deal. Really as a GM you are probably best to carry any head coach out to his lame duck season and extend during the season if things are still heading in the right direction. Extending a year or two early seems to be a waste of ownership money in a lot of cases.
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The last 2 firings are head scratchers.
What exactly are San Jose and Seattle looking to accomplish here? You're not good teams, why waste money.
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04-29-2024, 01:42 PM
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Oct 2006
Location: San Fernando Valley
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Paulie Walnuts
The last 2 firings are head scratchers.
What exactly are San Jose and Seattle looking to accomplish here? You're not good teams, why waste money.
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We have seen it here a few times with Hartley and Sutter that player exit interviews can influence decisions on head coaches. Could be the players were not fans of the coaches. Or it could simply be a matter of owners wanting change after a bad season.
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