02-03-2021, 06:42 AM
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#6521
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Franchise Player
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Sam Bennett for Brett Connolly, 25% retained? Done and done. Move on.
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02-03-2021, 07:17 AM
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#6522
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In the Sin Bin
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Originally Posted by Sandman
When do we start talking about Taylor Hall coming here again?
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And why do we wait till they pass their prime and wonder why they don't have it anymore.
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02-03-2021, 07:23 AM
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#6523
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Feb 2012
Location: Phoenix, AZ
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I’d rather go for Rakell than Connolly. Would do Bennett+ for him.
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02-03-2021, 07:50 AM
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#6524
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Apr 2014
Location: Indiana
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Quote:
Originally Posted by ForeverFlameFan
I’d rather go for Rakell than Connolly. Would do Bennett+ for him.
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I believe Brett Connolly is like to regress back into a 25 point player, which is what he has been for the vast majority of his career.
Rackell on the other hand, has had 40+ points in 5 of his 6 full seasons in the NHL. He's an actual top 6 forward. The Flames have had very good luck with Swedes. With Rackell, the Swedish culture would be overwhelming, in a good way.
He'd be worth the extra cost, and since he's off to a slow start, he'd be cheaper than usual.
Anaheim has shown interest in Bennett multiple times. And they desperately need a young center more than any other team in the league.
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02-03-2021, 07:53 AM
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#6525
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Franchise Player
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Quote:
Originally Posted by New Era
Sam Bennett for Brett Connolly, 25% retained? Done and done. Move on.
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Think it’s still to much cap hit. It’s a flat cap going into next season. Probably going to be able to pick a 3rd liner for under $2 million. I think July 1st free agency will be busy this year. Bottom 6 players that wait to long will be playing for league minimum.
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02-03-2021, 07:56 AM
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#6526
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First Line Centre
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Quote:
Originally Posted by 1qqaaz
I believe Brett Connolly is like to regress back into a 25 point player, which is what he has been for the vast majority of his career.
Rackell on the other hand, has had 40+ points in 5 of his 6 full seasons in the NHL. He's an actual top 6 forward. The Flames have had very good luck with Swedes. With Rackell, the Swedish culture would be overwhelming, in a good way.
He'd be worth the extra cost, and since he's off to a slow start, he'd be cheaper than usual.
Anaheim has shown interest in Bennett multiple times. And they desperately need a young center more than any other team in the league.
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If I'm Anaheim, I'm not trading a top 6 forward for one who isn't. I also don't buy into this idea that if a player has a slow start, his value plummets. GM probably take a look at things beyond the past 10 games or so. They're not goldfish.
If you can get Florida to retain salary, or through in a pick, I would go that route. 25 point player for 25 point player.
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02-03-2021, 08:29 AM
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#6527
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Feb 2007
Location: Calgary, AB
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Yeah Rakell is pretty much a top line player for Anaheim in the sense that he plays the most minutes among forwards on the team.
They might be willing to move him since they are rebuilding but you're likely looking at Bennett + 2nd at least, and they might even ask for a 1st.
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02-03-2021, 08:33 AM
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#6528
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Franchise Player
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Based on what the Ducks team looks like, I'm assuming they'd want picks and prospects for Rakell
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02-03-2021, 08:34 AM
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#6529
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Taking a while to get to 5000
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Yeah they wanted Bennett when they were still a contender. Not too sure what a rebuilding Ducks team is after. That being said, they did sign Shattenkirk so who knows what the plan is there.
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02-03-2021, 08:34 AM
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#6530
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Jan 2018
Location: Alberta
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Order of preference:
Rakkell
Silfverberg
Connolly
Reverse the above for the potential cost. Silfverberg would also require some cap considerations.
Out of left field, but what about trying to trade Ryan for Connolly? I personally don't think he's even worth Bennett at his contract value and playing level .
Ryan+2nd for Connolly - Connolly can play RW with Johnny-Mony while Backlund will have 2 of Bennett, Dube, and Mangiapane to paly with for consistency.
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02-03-2021, 08:38 AM
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#6531
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Feb 2007
Location: Calgary, AB
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Ondrej Kase would be an interesting name too, and Boston would probably love Bennett.
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02-03-2021, 08:43 AM
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#6532
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Jul 2004
Location: Bay Area
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Quote:
Originally Posted by dustygoon
JG has got plenty of points, but mostly powerplay. I used to worry about a) the cost of his next contract and b) if not contract, then can they trade him for enough.
But now, i'm meh. His next contract shouldn't be too onerous. Maybe its covid caused, but if the contact is too high and he walks, meh.
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This aged well. Beat it troll! Oh wait......
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02-03-2021, 08:55 AM
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#6533
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Jan 2018
Location: Alberta
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Quote:
Originally Posted by SuperMatt18
Ondrej Kase would be an interesting name too, and Boston would probably love Bennett.
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IMO Kase puts himself into harms way too often. Either he will stop doing that and stop being successful or he will get injured again. IMO of course, but I think he is very risky and not a good candidate for a bennett trade.
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02-03-2021, 08:56 AM
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#6534
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Feb 2012
Location: Phoenix, AZ
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Monahammer
Order of preference:
Rakkell
Silfverberg
Connolly
Reverse the above for the potential cost. Silfverberg would also require some cap considerations.
Out of left field, but what about trying to trade Ryan for Connolly? I personally don't think he's even worth Bennett at his contract value and playing level .
Ryan+2nd for Connolly - Connolly can play RW with Johnny-Mony while Backlund will have 2 of Bennett, Dube, and Mangiapane to paly with for consistency.
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I would also add the 2021 1st and a B prospect attached to Lucic for Silfverberg. At least he’s still a solid player.
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02-03-2021, 09:02 AM
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#6535
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Apr 2008
Location: CGY
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Quote:
Originally Posted by SuperMatt18
Ondrej Kase would be an interesting name too, and Boston would probably love Bennett.
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Bruins fans on HF have proposed Kase+ for Bennett on deals I have seen. Doesn’t mean much but they do value what Bennett brings.
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02-03-2021, 09:05 AM
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#6536
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Franchise Player
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Vinny01
Bruins fans on HF have proposed Kase+ for Bennett on deals I have seen. Doesn’t mean much but they do value what Bennett brings.
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There are probably a good number of teams with high quality coaches that would love to get their hands on Bennett.
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02-03-2021, 09:29 AM
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#6537
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Don't click that link!
Join Date: Apr 2006
Location: Rural Alberta
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Quote:
Originally Posted by ComixZone
There are probably a good number of teams with high quality coaches that would love to get their hands on Bennett.
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With Tre bringing in a high caliber goalie he really missed another important thing is to bring in a seasoned NHL coach with a good track record. Could've fixed the Bennett situation with a coach that knows what he's doing. The organization has mismanaged Bennett so badly. I believe he will be an effective top 6 player if given the right guidance and a prolonged opportunity to do so.
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02-03-2021, 09:29 AM
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#6538
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Apr 2014
Location: Indiana
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Quote:
Originally Posted by TOfan
If I'm Anaheim, I'm not trading a top 6 forward for one who isn't. I also don't buy into this idea that if a player has a slow start, his value plummets. GM probably take a look at things beyond the past 10 games or so. They're not goldfish.
If you can get Florida to retain salary, or through in a pick, I would go that route. 25 point player for 25 point player.
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Yep. Bennett would really just be a throw-in for cap reasons.
A lot of extra value would have to be added, and it would be worth it.
Rackell's value hasn't "plummeted" but it would likely be slightly less than if he had a hot start. No one on Anaheim has produced, so take it with a grain of salt. Rackell is a solid player and everyone knows it. But he has been up in trade rumors. Anaheim is rebuilding. They don't need to get a top 6 forward back. That would be against the whole point. They just want young assets.
It would be insane to acquire Connelly over Rackell, even with the much higher acquisition cost. One is a top 6 forward, the other is a bottom 6 forward. Even David Jones had better numbers than Connelly prior his acquisition.
Last edited by 1qqaaz; 02-03-2021 at 09:33 AM.
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02-03-2021, 09:40 AM
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#6539
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First Line Centre
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Player for player trades, sure, but no more spending future assets on this core... unless it's a young star player that will be around for a long time like PLD/Laine.
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02-03-2021, 10:18 AM
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#6540
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Franchise Player
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Saqe
Player for player trades, sure, but no more spending future assets on this core... unless it's a young star player that will be around for a long time like PLD/Laine.
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Agree. I see suggestions of Ryan and a second and I just see a waste of a second. You also want to keep Ryan around for his versatility. Move Bennett for the best player you can get and move forward. Hopefully you can get a Connolly or Kase for him. Rakell or Silfverberg seems highly unlikely, especially given their places in the lineup, their salaries, and Silfverberg's NTC. We need to be realistic here. We're not getting a top six player for Bennett or Ryan, even if we added them together. If anything that would drive the price down. Get one of the guys available and hope the middle six player can find some chemistry with our guys.
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