2020/2021 English Premier League

[d_phaneuf]

Originally Posted by cam_wmh

Stats were not similar. For those 3 years, (14-17) MSN scored 50% more.

Is that all around or when together? The infographic I could find when I looked showed them as almost equal

[Senator Clay Davis]

Originally Posted by Bagor

Except .... No they didn't. Because it was never credited to him ...ever.

The goal was at the time of, and still is credited to Bruno. In addition to the Beeb link earlier.

https://www.espn.com/soccer/commentary?gameId=578293

Now, why don't you provide a link for your image? Be a lot easier, no?

You....do understand websites can be modified and updated right? For instance, this was the BBC website until they changed it...



The screen image I posted was literally from the PL website and was credited to De Gea until early in the second half when it was changed. Here it is from the official PL game log too (which you will no doubt now search out and bring up as to show it going to Bruno, because the internet can never change after all...)



As I said at the time, I honestly don't care they got it wrong in a game that meaningless, it doesn't matter. But in general just another one for the scrap book of terrible and incompetent English officiating.

[d_phaneuf]

Originally Posted by Senator Clay Davis

You....do understand websites can be modified and updated right? For instance, this was the BBC website until they changed it...



The screen image I posted was literally from the PL website and was credited to De Gea until early in the second half when it was changed. Here it is from the official PL game log too (which you will no doubt now search out and bring up as to show it going to Bruno, because the internet can never change after all...)



As I said at the time, I honestly don't care they got it wrong in a game that meaningless, it doesn't matter. But in general just another one for the scrap book of terrible and incompetent English officiating.

I haven't even seen the goal so this is all unrelated to whether it's offside or not

But you do know that the referee has zero say in who's awarded the goal and assist right?

The fact it was on the social media or the website means some 18 year old social media intern put it there it doesn't mean it was the final decision

The league goes and changes if needed later on, sometimes weeks later on with the dubious goals panel

So just because it says de Gea with the assist, has nothing to do with the referee on the field or the linesmen or the VAR official

[Senator Clay Davis]

Well in the clip Bruno clearly does not get a touch, and technically awarding De Gea the assist is correct. But if De Gea does provide the assist, and he does, it by default is an offside goal. Leaving it up as a De Gea assist is putting it literally on the record that an offside goal was awarded. Even though Bruno doesn't get a touch they are basically compelled to give him the assist, less they put their incompetence on the record rather than leaving it to interpretation.

At the end of the day it ultimately does not matter, it changes nothing other than a great goal that shouldn't have technically counted will now count, in one of the least meaningful games of the year. Just another example of the quality of English refs (and there were several more examples in other matches yesterday).

[J epworth]

Kevin Friend will never be a friend of Aston Villa

[Senator Clay Davis]

What a worldie OG from Reguilon.

https://twitter.com/user/status/1395067897148551175

[J epworth]

And now directly involved in another goal for Reguilon, thanks for the help! Someone may need to check if he has some money on the game today

[Bagor]

Originally Posted by Senator Clay Davis

Well in the clip Bruno clearly does not get a touch, and technically awarding De Gea the assist is correct. But if De Gea does provide the assist, and he does, it by default is an offside goal. Leaving it up as a De Gea assist is putting it literally on the record that an offside goal was awarded. Even though Bruno doesn't get a touch they are basically compelled to give him the assist, less they put their incompetence on the record rather than leaving it to interpretation.

At the end of the day it ultimately does not matter, it changes nothing other than a great goal that shouldn't have technically counted will now count, in one of the least meaningful games of the year. Just another example of the quality of English refs (and there were several more examples in other matches yesterday).

Let me break it down slowly for you because you really are struggling.

The goal was reviewed by VAR for possible offside.
It was clear to every man and his dog that if the ball had went to him directly from de Gea he was miles offside. However if touched by Bruno he wasn't.

At THE TIME OF REVIEW the goal was awarded based on that they felt Bruno got a touch and therefore it was not offside. AT THE TIME OF REVIEW the goal was awarded with an assist to Bruno.
The screw up is that I don't see Bruno getting a touch anywhere.
The only person claiming that de Gea was awarded an assist is you and your images.

Originally Posted by d_phaneuf

I haven't even seen the goal so this is all unrelated to whether it's offside or not

Offside or not it's well worth a watch just for the quality of finish.

[Senator Clay Davis]

Originally Posted by Bagor

Let me break it down slowly for you because you really are struggling.

The goal was reviewed by VAR for possible offside.
It was clear to every man and his dog that if the ball had went to him directly from de Gea he was miles offside. However if touched by Bruno he wasn't.

At THE TIME OF REVIEW the goal was awarded based on that they felt Bruno got a touch and therefore it was not offside. AT THE TIME OF REVIEW the goal was awarded with an assist to Bruno.

The screw up is that I don't see Bruno getting a touch anywhere.

The only person claiming that de Gea was awarded an assist is you and your images.

Dude, the official PL website awarded De Gea the assist at the time. Everyone else reported it as such. It stayed on the official PL website for nearly an hour of actual time, and then it was changed. There wasn't a single place where Bruno was credited with the assist until the PL website changed it. There's nothing else to it, why you've gone on this crusade, which even by your standards is bizarre, I couldn't tell you. Hope you feel better though.

[d_phaneuf]

If harry winks asked ryan mason to give him the start as kind of a showcase for the england squad... plan failed

[Bagor]

Originally Posted by Senator Clay Davis

Dude, the official PL website awarded De Gea the assist at the time. Everyone else reported it as such. It stayed on the official PL website for nearly an hour of actual time, and then it was changed. There wasn't a single place where Bruno was credited with the assist until the PL website changed it. There's nothing else to it, why you've gone on this crusade, which even by your standards is bizarre, I couldn't tell you. Hope you feel better though.

No ..... they ....didn't.
It was made perfectly clear for all except you that the goal was awarded based on VAR deeming (incorrectly imo) that Bruno got a touch.
But that doesn't fit your rant.
You carry on ......

[Bagor]

And just like that Arsenal could jump ahead of Spurs in the last game.

[Arsenal14]

It seems crazy but Europa League isn't out of the picture for Arsenal now - if West Ham draws (it's 1-1 at the moment) it goes to the final week as:

6. West Ham - 60 (+10) - Southampton (h)
7. Tottenham - 59 (+21) - Leicester (a)
8. Everton - 59 (+4) - Man City (a)
9. Arsenal - 58 (+14) - Brighton (h)

West Ham clearly in the driver's seat but with Tottenham and Everton having tough games the door may be open.

[Senator Clay Davis]

Huge goal for West Ham, that should lock up some kind of European football next season.

[Kipper is King]

Holy cow! West Ham will likely finish in a Europa League spot! Wow, and I honestly thought they were relegation candidates at the start of the season!

[Locke]

Liverpool lookin' good in that Top 4 spot...

Now just hold it.

If Villa can hold or beat Chelsea and we beat Palace (tall order...they're our Kryptonite) we could even finish 3rd. Hell...with all of our injuries Top 4 at all is a miracle.

Also...nice to see Nat Phillips get a goal! That was a nice header, maybe he's been practicing headers with Alisson?

[Bagor]

Big loser this weekend will be the team that finishes up in 7th and the Europa Conference League. Would be better off in 8th.

[d_phaneuf]

Originally Posted by Bagor

Big loser this weekend will be the team that finishes up in 7th and the Europa Conference League. Would be better off in 8th.

Winning the conference league only being worth a europa league spot is just the cherry on top for whomever finishes in 7th

[d_phaneuf]

Originally Posted by Locke

Liverpool lookin' good in that Top 4 spot...

Now just hold it.

If Villa can hold or beat Chelsea and we beat Palace (tall order...they're our Kryptonite) we could even finish 3rd. Hell...with all of our injuries Top 4 at all is a miracle.

Also...nice to see Nat Phillips get a goal! That was a nice header, maybe he's been practicing headers with Alisson?

Not the injury narrative again, even klopp stopped using that excuse

Every team has had them

[GirlySports]

Originally Posted by Senator Clay Davis

What a worldie OG from Reguilon.

https://twitter.com/user/status/1395067897148551175

Reguilon, along with Ndombele, Bergwijn, LoCelso, Sessengnon, Aurier, Doherty were expensive signings that were going to rejuvenate this team. Every single one of them has disappointed.

Many Spurs fans scream about Daniel Levy's cheapness, but that's not the problem. The team spent a lot of money over the past 2 years and bought a bunch of glorified scrubs. It's not a matter of spending, it's a matter of spending well.

With Kane leaving, I think that this team needs to be gutted. Thinking 10th next season.