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View Poll Results: Pick the best prospect from the following
Jake Boltman 0 0%
Daniil Chechelev 1 0.48%
Mathias Emilio Pettersen 87 41.43%
Lucas Feuk 0 0%
Ryan Francis 0 0%
Glenn Gawdin 23 10.95%
Pavel Karnaukhov 0 0%
Rory Kerins 0 0%
Johannes Kinnvall 5 2.38%
Justin Kirkland 0 0%
Demetrios Koumontzis 0 0%
Yan Kuznetsov 2 0.95%
Carl-Johan Lerby 0 0%
Mitchell Mattson 0 0%
Illya Nikolayev 0 0%
Josh Nodler 0 0%
Tyler Parsons 2 0.95%
Matthew Phillips 58 27.62%
Luke Philp 0 0%
Jeremie Poirier 11 5.24%
Colton Poolman 1 0.48%
Martin Pospisil 0 0%
Rushan Rafikov 0 0%
Adam Ruzicka 3 1.43%
Illay Solovyov 0 0%
Filip Sveningsson 0 0%
Eetu Tuulola 0 0%
Alexander Yelesin 3 1.43%
Artyom Zagidulin 1 0.48%
Dmitri Zavagorodny 13 6.19%
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Old 10-24-2020, 11:50 AM   #21
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Honest question but have you seen him play? For most of these players we are basing it off of scouting reports and maybe youtube highlights.
not in person, but Flames brass would seem to agree with his early signing. Honestly I was responding to him being called overrated. If you have watched any of his games, his talent is elite.
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Old 10-24-2020, 12:26 PM   #22
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My next votes will probably go like:

1. Mathias Emilio Pettersen
2. Dmitri Zavgorodny
3. Daniil Chechelev
4. Matthew Phillips
5. Ilya Nikolayev
6. Johannes Kinnvall
7. Yan Kuznetsov
8. Jeremy Poirier
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Old 10-24-2020, 12:42 PM   #23
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I went Poirier here, but it looks like I might be voting for him for the next 2-3 rounds.

Probably the highest offensive ceiling of anyone left, and arguably of any Flames prospect. The steal of the entire draft, IMO.

But I can see the allure of safer choices. But we are out of the top 5 now so I'm taking a big swing!
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Old 10-24-2020, 12:53 PM   #24
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I went Poirier here, but it looks like I might be voting for him for the next 2-3 rounds.

Probably the highest offensive ceiling of anyone left, and arguably of any Flames prospect. The steal of the entire draft, IMO.

But I can see the allure of safer choices. But we are out of the top 5 now so I'm taking a big swing!
Maybe the steal of the draft, on his own.

But considering that Treliving turned Zary into Zary + Poirier, it was a stroke of absolute brilliance.
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Pettersen IMO is the most overrated Flames prospect. He was 42nd in Division 1 scoring last year based on PPG. He was a sophomore which is in his favor but there are plenty of sophomores and a few freshman on that list. His game is entirely dependent on scoring as he is a no show in his own zone so I am rather skeptical he ever gets a sniff of the bigs. Pretty good 6th round pick and what do I know, he could easily carve out an Austin Czarnik career. The fact that Flames already signed him shows he has progressed.
I suspect the reason Pettersen looks less noticeable than the numbers indicate is because he really is a powerplay specialist at this point, not unlike Rob Schremp and Sam Gagner did in their pre-NHL years - which is a nod to your viewings.

20 of Pettersen's 35 points this year came with the man advantage, representing 57% of his points which is incredible for a forward - that share is powerplay QB defenceman territory. Generally you will see forwards in the 25-35% range, but a higher percentage of powerplay goals are scored in NCAA hockey relative to other leagues. However, even with that in mind the average NCAA forward is in the 35-40% range.

Last season wasn't as bad as he was in the expected range, but noteworthy was him scoring just one non-powerplay goal in 40 games which is why I was much lower on him than the Forum consensus in last years edition of this.

Consider Pettersen now has 8 non-powerplay goals in 76 games (27 assists) and I am deeply concerned he may not be able to translate his offence to the next levels, and, as a perimeter player, he may not have the all-round game to succeed in other roles.

Not at all intended to be a Pettersen hit piece but there isn't really a way to word it without it seeming that way. He just has some extreme outliers in his metrics that need to be considered, in my opinion.
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PPG and led his team in scoring as a 19 year old (didn’t turn 20 until after the season) is very impressive for NCAA.

And if you look at U-20 scoring he was 5th, much more impressive than the 42nd you listed.

Only guys in front of him were:

Jack Drury - 2nd Rounder
Alex Newhook - 1st Rounder
Trevor Zegras - 1st Rounder
Cole Caufield - 1st rounder

So a second rounder with a huge year, and three top 16 picks in the draft are the only guys that were better than Pettersson as an U-20 forward in the NCAA last season.

Usually you’d like to see around 1.25 PPG in that season for a true top end elite prospect, but he’s still in the right range for players his age for sure.
Pettersen also plays in the most difficult conference of any of the five. Drury in particular plays in the ECAC which is almost half as difficult as Pettersen's NCHC.
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I thought Kuznetsov would get more votes than this..

Kind of an unsexy pick so I get it.
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I thought Kuznetsov would get more votes than this..

Kind of an unsexy pick so I get it.
I'm into Kuznetsov after Pettersen
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