03-22-2016, 10:10 AM
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#2061
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Originally Posted by peter12
So a tiny fishing cabin in or near the footprint would be enough for mitigation measures to be initiated. That is how overly-cautious we are in Canada when it serves our political agenda.
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03-22-2016, 10:24 AM
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#2062
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First Line Centre
Join Date: Feb 2002
Location: Normally, my desk
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Quote:
Originally Posted by peter12
So a tiny fishing cabin in or near the footprint would be enough for mitigation measures to be initiated. That is how overly-cautious we are in Canada.
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I speculated on that, but yes. Keep in mind the mitigation measure might simply be "Dude, you're 5 km away and the activities planned during night shift will not cause any adverse effects"....then you include a nice map with pretty colours showing decibel ranges decreasing the farther away you get from the work site. Albertans have to do this all the time for trappers and any other inhabitants (permanent or temporary) that may be nearby a construction site. Petronas will also have to live up to what they promise.
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03-22-2016, 10:27 AM
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#2063
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5 km would be an adequate buffer.
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03-22-2016, 10:33 AM
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#2064
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Join Date: Feb 2002
Location: Normally, my desk
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Quote:
Originally Posted by peter12
5 km would be an adequate buffer.
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I just pulled that number out of the air as an example. Mitigation could be as extreme as relocation of inhabitants as well. Likely not, but possible.
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03-22-2016, 10:37 AM
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From the aboriginal and socio-economic side, we always ended up being pretty rigorous when it came to actually recommending a re-route. I remember one time we discovered 3 old cabins - probably from the 1930s - on the edge of a cut-block and right within the proposed project footprint. Some of our First Nations present believed that cabin had been used by their ancestors. Our recommendations were for an archaeological assessment to be done on the site with First Nations observing, to narrow the workspace by 1-2m, or even to move the buildings from site altogether. The client went with the first two options at a very minimal cost.
It is the aggregate where these things go awry.
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03-22-2016, 10:50 AM
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#2067
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2 km would be considered close enough for project consultation, milestones etc... to be communicated to residents, but not enough for any kind of compensation. Not unless there were roads being built that intersected residential property, then you would get a bit of cash.
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03-22-2016, 11:12 AM
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#2068
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I think the discussion was around night time construction. I'm not sure I'd want to listen to pile drivers all night long. I'm sure 2km is close enough to hear them.
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03-22-2016, 11:17 AM
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#2069
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Originally Posted by Fuzz
I think the discussion was around night time construction. I'm not sure I'd want to listen to pile drivers all night long. I'm sure 2km is close enough to hear them.
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I'd be interested to see the location. 2 km in the middle of the Pacific NW rain forest will pretty much muffle anything.
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03-22-2016, 11:24 AM
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Check my second link above.
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03-22-2016, 11:34 AM
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Maybe it is something that has been raised before, but I was wondering why there was never a secondary site recommended for the Gateway project. Kitamat has so many barriers, with small and large islands in the inlet, and the Great Bear rainforest to the south. It was always doomed to be held up by environmental concerns.
North of Prince Rupert, there is another inlet near Georgetown, with both sides owned by Canada, although the Alaskan border is very close. Many of these environmental concerns would be eliminated by a change of location.
The obvious downside of Georgetown is that there is no rail service, or major roadway, but it's not exactly that far out from Prince Rupert that these things could not be built.
Why Kitamat or die?
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03-23-2016, 01:20 PM
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#2072
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Join Date: Dec 2006
Location: Calgary, Alberta
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Back under $40 today. Hope you got your double meats while you could.
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03-23-2016, 01:36 PM
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#2073
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Join Date: Sep 2009
Location: Calgary
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Originally Posted by TheDragon
Back under $40 today. Hope you got your double meats while you could.
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It's all about planning ahead. I bought a 3m sandwich with double meat to save money over the long term.
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03-23-2016, 02:04 PM
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#2074
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Join Date: Jan 2009
Location: Calgary
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I think if we break 45 and maintain that barrier, we'll be in the clear.
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03-24-2016, 10:47 AM
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03-24-2016, 10:54 AM
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#2076
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Originally Posted by _Q_
I think if we break 45 and maintain that barrier, we'll be in the clear.
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$39 and dropping..
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03-24-2016, 11:26 AM
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#2077
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Originally Posted by Otto-matic
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No different than a company moving its parent entity to Luxembourg for tax purposes. Its all about taxes. Guy didn't up and leave the country.
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03-24-2016, 11:33 AM
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#2078
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Posted the 6 millionth post!
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There are at least a few wealthy oil men from Calgary living in Britain, or the British Isles.
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03-24-2016, 11:55 AM
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Could Care Less
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Originally Posted by Ducay
No different than a company moving its parent entity to Luxembourg for tax purposes. Its all about taxes. Guy didn't up and leave the country.
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It might be about taxes but I'm pretty sure he is actually personally moving there.
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03-24-2016, 12:01 PM
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#2080
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Join Date: Mar 2007
Location: Income Tax Central
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Originally Posted by heep223
It might be about taxes but I'm pretty sure he is actually personally moving there.
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Yeah....I dont think people move to one of the most expensive cities in the world to avoid taxes...?
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