03-24-2020, 08:08 AM
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#1163
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Jul 2002
Location: Chicago
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Originally Posted by CorsiHockeyLeague
I'm assuming a flat cap, and I'm also assuming that the draft will be based on the standings or some version of them (points percentage maybe) to calculate the lottery odds.
However, the trades thing is what gets me - what do you do about conditional trades? I.e., a 2nd that becomes a 1st if the team makes the playoffs? Did the teams in a playoff position "make the playoffs" for purposes of those trades? And if they do come back and do some zany 24 team tournament, does that qualify as "making the playoffs" for those purposes?
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How much will league revenue be down? About 85% of season was played but probably 98% of expenses incurred. Does playoff revenue factor into salary cap equation?
Do you give every team some small chance at first OV? I don't mean like Crosby lottery, but
Still not sure there may not be supplemental picks added somewhere to offset deadline type deals gearing up for playoff run that never happened.
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03-24-2020, 08:46 AM
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#1164
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In the Sin Bin
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Yes, playoffs factor in to the cap, and that revenue is *massive*. And definitely much, much less than 98% of expenses incurred, but that doesn't matter as far as the cap goes. Ultimately, the CBA provides for unexpected major revenue swings. And the short answer to what that means is that the two parties can agree to set the cap to whatever they want. So if they decide that revenues will recover in 2020-21, they can decide to keep the same cap or even raise it. The risk, of course, is that if revenues do fall off a cliff, the players are going to get escrowed to death.
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03-24-2020, 09:14 AM
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#1165
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Franchise Player
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Say 5.5 games per series x 15 series x 3 million per game = 250 million or so. Plus whatever the TV changes are. Plus 10 regular season games x 1 million per x 15 = 150 million.
So say 400 million in lost revenues +/- 50%. So that would be a 6.66 million cap hit. I think I am underestimating playoff revenue though.
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03-25-2020, 12:47 PM
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#1166
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NOT breaking news
Join Date: Jan 2007
Location: Calgary
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03-25-2020, 01:35 PM
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#1168
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Franchise Player
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Quote:
Originally Posted by EldrickOnIce
How much will league revenue be down? About 85% of season was played but probably 98% of expenses incurred. Does playoff revenue factor into salary cap equation?
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Not sure, but whatever it is, it is. Going to be a #### ton of escrow next year.
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Do you give every team some small chance at first OV? I don't mean like Crosby lottery, but
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I'd prefer this, if there really are no playoffs whatsoever, yeah.
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Still not sure there may not be supplemental picks added somewhere to offset deadline type deals gearing up for playoff run that never happened.
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Yeah, if you gave up a 2nd for a UFA, you get a bonus 2nd, for example.
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03-25-2020, 01:57 PM
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#1169
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Lifetime Suspension
Join Date: Sep 2005
Location: The Void between Darkness and Light
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I think most teams would prefer compliance buyouts to supplemental picks.
I think the most you can do is negate some of the conditional aspects of the picks, but the picks were traded and the players acquired by teams played games.
The Flames got games and wins with Forbort and Gustaffson in the lineup. I don't think you can go back on that and say they get their picks back or get to supplement the ones they lost with picks at the end of the round.
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03-25-2020, 04:44 PM
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#1172
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Feb 2006
Location: Calgary
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Carolina is the second team to stop paying full time employees
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03-25-2020, 04:59 PM
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#1173
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Feb 2006
Location: Calgary
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On the other side, Dallas Stars President and GM are both taking 50% pay cuts.
https://twitter.com/user/status/1242942882018926592
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03-26-2020, 12:15 AM
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#1174
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Franchise Player
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Originally Posted by GirlySports
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I think he should just leave the commentary/PBP to Greg Woods
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03-29-2020, 11:49 AM
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#1176
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In the Sin Bin
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Fox Sports is so desperate for content that it has NASCAR drivers all doing a video game race. Gotta say, the game's quality is such that you'd be hard pressed to tell it's not real - except for the fact that there's fans in the stands. Which wasn't exactly a common sight even before the world ended.
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03-29-2020, 12:12 PM
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#1177
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#1 Goaltender
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The NHL should pick a single city, book out hotels, invite only select media. Test all personnel on every team multiple times to ensure no one is infected. And then just play the playoffs in front of zero fans. Close circuit the entire process so no one gets infected
Why: this is the least popular major sports league, with the best playoff intensity and there will soon be a captive audience globally watching on TV. Every sports channel would be dedicated to the NHL only. This is a once in 100 year opportunity to grow the game.
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03-29-2020, 12:53 PM
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#1178
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Franchise Player
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Originally Posted by GullFoss
The NHL should pick a single city, book out hotels, invite only select media. Test all personnel on every team multiple times to ensure no one is infected. And then just play the playoffs in front of zero fans. Close circuit the entire process so no one gets infected
Why: this is the least popular major sports league, with the best playoff intensity and there will soon be a captive audience globally watching on TV. Every sports channel would be dedicated to the NHL only. This is a once in 100 year opportunity to grow the game.
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You can't risk further infection of players.
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03-29-2020, 01:47 PM
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#1179
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Pent-up
Join Date: Mar 2018
Location: Plutanamo Bay.
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Originally Posted by Jiri Hrdina
You can't risk further infection of players.
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Not to mention, there better be daily tests for everyone else who has normal jobs before the millionaires can go back to playing sports.
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03-29-2020, 02:14 PM
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#1180
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Jun 2006
Location: Calgary, Alberta
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Originally Posted by Scroopy Noopers
Not to mention, there better be daily tests for everyone else who has normal jobs before the millionaires can go back to playing sports.
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That's the big hurdle I feel even if the possibility of doing games without fans is possible. You would have to do continuous testing of the players to ensure they are okay, and if this means the general public is not getting the availability of tests as much as they should as a result, it's a PR disaster in the making.
If player and organization safety is of true importance, I don't believe you do games without fans. They should have the beliefs that the threat is low enough at that point that reasonable risk to the player and general public isn't prevalent, and they don't have concerns about the player contracting it from someone else random - even if they still impose quartines on their own players and staff. The last thing they would want to do is have to shut down again because a player or someone tested positive.
The league, TV execs, and the players are gonna have a very challenging time though trying to seperate money lost, from the safetest protocols to take though. These next few weeks, and how it pans out in the US is crucial on the possibility of NHL and NBA resuming their seasons or not.
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