That Lindy quote is shocking. I didn't see his part of the presser and might not know the full context but that kind of attitude or belief is exactly what needs to be shipped out of the org. Good player but I'm not sold on him.
This is crap, Lindholm is our arguably our best player and is always competing out there.
Just cause he made the comment doesn’t mean he wasn’t giving 100% every shift.
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- Dougie Hamilton is a better defenseman than every single Flame
- Adam Fox is a better defenseman than every single Flame
- Sam Bennett is a better power forward than every single Flame
- Mike Smith outplayed Flames' goalies and is the #1 starter for a playoff team
- Cam Talbot outplayed Flames' goalies and is the #1 starter for a playoff team
Tre had all of these players and now has none of them.
(And I realize there are circumstances with each)
Just sayin...
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I think it's telling that you have to go back to an era when the Flames had a fraction of the budget of other teams and no salary cap. Cammalleri is the only star player that I can remember walking away from the Flames since the cap came in.
Looch gives me future Captain vibes for his remaining time here.
He speaks way more passionately and honestly than anyone I've heard from today. A lot could be learned from his determination and 'give a S' attitude. This roster needs a huge kick in azz from it leaders.
Let's not act like Lucic isn't part of the reason this team isn't in the playoffs. How many huge defensive zone giveaways did he have in the first 10-15 games of the year in one-goal games that basically cost us the loser point if not the win? I don't pay attention to +/- but I wouldn't be surprised if Lucic is one of the bigger minuses on the team.
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- Dougie Hamilton is a better defenseman than every single Flame
- Adam Fox is a better defenseman than every single Flame
- Sam Bennett is a better power forward than every single Flame
- Mike Smith outplayed Flames' goalies and is the #1 starter for a playoff team
- Cam Talbot outplayed Flames' goalies and is the #1 starter for a playoff team
Tre had all of these players and now has none of them.
(And I realize there are circumstances with each)
Just sayin...
What is this?
-We have Lindholm and Hanifin thanks to no Dougie
-Adam Fox would have never signed here
-Sam Bennett had lots of chances here, he needed a change of scenery
-Mike Smith is a negative Nancy and nobody expected him to do well this year. This is why he is making near league minimum because NOBODY wanted him
-Cam Talbot crapped the bed in the playoffs and we had a shot at a more consistent and better goaltender
Tre got assets from Hamilton, Fox, and Bennett that will likely make more impact than they did.
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This is crap, Lindholm is our arguably our best player and is always competing out there.
Just cause he made the comment doesn’t mean he wasn’t giving 100% every shift.
Lindholm is a good player but he isn't exactly known to elevate his game down the stretch or in the playoffs. Not going to get into a debate about him giving 100%, but that attitude about things being easy is literally the worst type of attitude a player or team can have and unfortunately I think a lot of our main core probably thinks the same.
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Glencross? He was traded and was bitter because he actually signed an under-market value contract to play in Calgary.
Brodie? I guess. I was under the impression that they used his money to sign Tanev. You could be right, but I think that his family being from Ontario and the fact that the Flames tried to trade him played a role as well.
Not true. Hamilton and Fox are better than any dman we have.
What did he get for Bennett that could or would contribute more than him?
Individually Treliving made some good deals but he constructed a bad team that can’t win
Is this sellers remorse?
I won't argue that Hamilton and Fox are very good defensemen, but Hanifin + Lindholm > Hamilton. Fox had no value with us because he was NEVER going to sign here.
Bennett truly did not bring very much value here, and he needed a change of scenery. It is what it is. He played over 400 games here at 0.35 ppg. All of a sudden he is 1.5 ppg. Fact is that he did not contribute that HERE.
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Seems more like a shot at Dube, who is completely disengaged when he's not scoring.
Maybe, except when has Dube been used to playing a lot more minutes? I thought it was about role. and the criticism can be applied to Tkachuk as easily.
As for "tone it down", who knows if Lucic said that? Anyway, a lot of people see Chuckie's post whistle antics as competing hard for the team, but I'm not so sure if it's not actually more about him. Was he mad they lost to Toronto, or that Muzzin trolled him? It's one thing to go after an opponent for a dirty or even hard hit or a slash (and Chuckie has done that, TBF), but another to have to grab hold of some huge defenceman and get punched because Chuckie decided to take a few whacks at their goalie. It probably gets old after a while.
Let's not act like Lucic isn't part of the reason this team isn't in the playoffs. How many huge defensive zone giveaways did he have in the first 10-15 games of the year in one-goal games that basically cost us the loser point if not the win? I don't pay attention to +/- but I wouldn't be surprised if Lucic is one of the bigger minuses on the team.
Lucic is one of the few that played above expectations but yeah the bar for him is so low
Everyone just jumps on every little thing said and overanalyzes it and turns on someone so easily.
Typically that happens when a team and a core repeatedly fails and fails and fails.
If he said it, its probably true and its an attitude that needs to go, its that simple. What on gods green earth has this team achieved where that mindset can even percolate in their heads?
Let's not act like Lucic isn't part of the reason this team isn't in the playoffs. How many huge defensive zone giveaways did he have in the first 10-15 games of the year in one-goal games that basically cost us the loser point if not the win? I don't pay attention to +/- but I wouldn't be surprised if Lucic is one of the bigger minuses on the team.
One.
Maybe.
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On Johnny
- I'm happy he has verbalized he wants to stay. Keep at this point is to keep all options open and make the best decision
- I don't know how anyone would expect to say anything different. Even a "no comment" would have been interpreted as him not wanting to stay. There was pretty much one answer the could have given and he did
- Key is what the term and $ value is. I've always said it wasn't about him not wanting to stay alone, it was about the deal itself and what you can get in return.
And that's the other thing. This team needs to make changes. Monahan is off the table more than likely. So if you want to make a core change Johnny is one of a couple that could bring back something of real value.
This is the biggest decision of BT's tenure (assuming he's staying). It has to be the right call.
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