[News] Saddledome is going cashless

[Scroopy Noopers]

Originally Posted by Jacks

I like the idea of doing a quick tap to pay but not sure how this will affect worker tips in that case?
I wonder if they start adding a mandatory tip?
If they don't do tap and people have to go through the whole "pin #", "amount ok", "select tip amount", "select account", "ok" every single time it could be ridiculous.

#### this, pay them reasonably. What tippable work is being done by someone behind a counter, taking cash and handing you items? They aren’t waiting on you. Do we tip people at fast food joints. Nan I hate tip culture, and hate even more that people have to depend on it.

[Macman]

I can understand them doing this but they should still keep the option of paying in cash open.

[Jiri Hrdina]

Originally Posted by The Familia

Just another stupid move on behalf of CSEC. Since when has cash become unacceptable? If the majority of people use touchless payment anyways, how do a few hundred people who prefer cash inconvenience the rest? Instead of limiting and restricting people, shouldn't they be expanding things so that there are options that suit everyone? Especially coming back from Covid where every dollar helps. Believe it or not, but there are older people who don't use cell phones or have credit cards. You have effectively blocked them out. I rarely use cash as I collect travel points on my VISA, but I think this is a dumb move. I don't buy the whole "covid" thing either as there are still hundreds of touch points all over the arena.

Money is dirty and gross and slower to pay with and less safe to handle.
And I'm sure they know how much of their transactions are currently not cash and how they will manage the risk of losing any of that.
But this is a decision that more businesses will make.
Nothing dumb about it.

[Jiri Hrdina]

Originally Posted by Macman

I can understand them doing this but they should still keep the option of paying in cash open.

Keeping the option means you have to maintain all the systems, processes and expense to accept cash. Avoiding all that is I'm sure one of their intended outcomes of making this move.

[Locke]

Originally Posted by chedder

So true. I tried complaining about the cost of hair, nails etc. for the three girls in my life and was quickly assured that my golf course tabs make those costs seem trivial. Rookie mistake.

On the cashless and tips, I simply ask the person running the machine to add the tip so I don't have to touch the machine. Having to touch it defeats the purpose of touch less.

If they wanted to make more money they should find a way to charge for concessions in an anonymous fashion.

"Oh honey! I'm so happy! You donated $40 to the Calgary Pocket Dawg Foundation! Do they save strays?"

- Sure...why not?

[Bleeding Red]

Can a business legally refuse to accept cash?
If I am using the legal tender of the land, it should be accepted as payment. If not, than that legal tender is worthless.

[Lanny'sDaMan]

Originally Posted by Locke

Crap.

So now my wife is going to be able to find out exactly how much I spend on beer and pocket dawgs.

That's why you get a prepaid card from your bank. Load it up for Flames games and yer golden

[Locke]

Originally Posted by Lanny'sDaMan

That's why you get a prepaid card from your bank. Load it up for Flames games and yer golden

Genius! Thank you sir!

[TheScorpion]

Originally Posted by Bleeding Red

Can a business legally refuse to accept cash?
If I am using the legal tender of the land, it should be accepted as payment. If not, than that legal tender is worthless.

Isn't a credit card just another way of transferring legal tender? It's not like they're shifting to Bitcoin.

[Jacks]

Originally Posted by Scroopy Noopers

#### this, pay them reasonably. What tippable work is being done by someone behind a counter, taking cash and handing you items? They aren’t waiting on you. Do we tip people at fast food joints. Nan I hate tip culture, and hate even more that people have to depend on it.

Well I've worked in the service industry and have no issue tipping.
You do you.

[Bleeding Red]

Originally Posted by TheScorpion

Isn't a credit card just another way of transferring legal tender? It's not like they're shifting to Bitcoin.

Credit cards are a third party payment method whereas the credit card company enters into a deal with the shopkeeper. I think a shopkeeper can refuse payment by Amex, since they may not have a deal in place with Amex.


There is no middleman when it comes to cash - the government backs it. The currency act denotes legal tender as coins and notes.

[Toonage]

Saddledome wants to eliminate cash. Less touching dirty paper & coins. Less interaction between people. Streamlining processes.

Get with it. Get over it.

[Bill Bumface]

Oh how far we've come from the days of the lineups at the 2 ATMs blocking the entire concourse every intermission.

[TheScorpion]

I'd be stunned if their new machines don't include options for tips. Basically every restaurant I've paid at in the last five years has had a built-in tipping option on the terminal.

[Goriders]

I never use cash anyway. So no big deal for me.

[calf]

More businesses are going cashless during the COVID-19 pandemic and are asking customers to use debit, credit or app payments as a precautionary measure.

But some readers, such as Samar D., are asking if it's legal for a retailer to reject payment in cash.

The short answer is yes, a store can refuse to take cash. But it's a little more complicated than that.

The Bank of Canada says it's up to sellers to determine what kinds of payment they will accept for transactions, and there is "no law" that would require anyone to accept bank notes or any other form of payment for a commercial transaction.

However, in certain circumstances, refusing to take cash in a store may actually violate provincial human rights codes.

Michael Bryant, executive director of the Canadian Civil Liberties Association (CCLA), warns that a store's no-cash policy could inadvertently discriminate against seniors, people who are disabled, impoverished or people who just don't have credit or debit cards

https://www.cbc.ca/news/health/cash-...ered-1.5609691

[curves2000]

I know that a lot of people really push for the elimination of cash or have stopped using it altogether but it does have it's purpose and one of the major ones is insurance/back up in a time of crisis.

I fully realize that getting a burger or a beer at the Dome isn't some massive emergency but when emergencies do in fact come, having some cash on you can be critical for basic things.

Having been in retail virtually my entire life and in banking for many years, I can assure you just how personal and vulnerable finances and a lack of cash can be. Retailers don't care about what's happened to your bank or credit card, banks try to minimize your and their financial losses in times of fraud.

If you have $20 or $50 in cash for an emergency or if you travel internationally, $100 USD, it can help you get out of a lot of jams.

Time and time again both at the store and at the bank I would hear these stories from clients about how "your machine isn't working" or ""the bank screwed up by blocking my account" or "I was on a trip, I forgot/lost my card and than spent how long on the phone trying to get a replacement sent to Wherever"

I will never forget a time at my family's store during the start of the pandemic when things were looking really scary on the financial side, markets, shutdowns etc. Our debit machine was down, than people trying to use the ATM (different network) was down, people coming in saying their bank ATM wasn't working and others were coming from a taxi who's machine wasn't working.

People who were relying on plastic or phones for payment were scared. They had no method of getting something basic to eat or groceries. This might have been an isolated incident in the area as it wasn't just our store and may have only lasted a short while. Bottom line is that the people who had $10 or $20 were flying by the line getting milk and bread for survival meanwhile others were left holding useless plastic in some ways.

[Scroopy Noopers]

Originally Posted by Jacks

Well I've worked in the service industry and have no issue tipping.
You do you.

Sure, ignore my main point that was clearly outlined. I’m the #######.

[Bring_Back_Shantz]

Originally Posted by Bleeding Red

Can a business legally refuse to accept cash?
If I am using the legal tender of the land, it should be accepted as payment. If not, than that legal tender is worthless.

I'm going out on a limb here because I'm not a lawyer, but here's my guess.

I know there is legislation as to what a busness has to accept as legal tender to pay off a debt, so for example if you owed them $5 (or whatever the number is), they can't refuse to accept 500 pennies. If it's more than whatever that number is, then they can refuse the pennies and demand payment in another way.
The difference being paying off a debt vs starting a transaction. They can refuse to sell you something if they don't take whatever you're offering.
So if you owe money on your season tickets which they have invoiced you for, they can't refuse if you show up with a stack of hundred dollar bills, but they can say "Sorry, I can't sell you this beer, we don't have a way to take your cash".

[The Cobra]

Originally Posted by TheScorpion

I'd be stunned if their new machines don't include options for tips. Basically every restaurant I've paid at in the last five years has had a built-in tipping option on the terminal.

Then you'll be stunned LOL.

The bars/beer stations will have a tip option, the concessions will not.