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Old 03-20-2014, 09:01 AM   #21
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Old 03-20-2014, 09:01 AM   #22
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Whatever happens, I hope the media focus' some attention on the board of the PC party.
Who are these people that can censure the Premier and put her on notice that if she doesn't ship up she will be sent out.

Maybe it is because I just finished watching House of Cards but the idea that the party president and the rest of the board have more power than the leader of the province makes it look really crooked.
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Whatever happens, I hope the media focus' some attention on the board of the PC party.
Who are these people that can censure the Premier and put her on notice that if she doesn't ship up she will be sent out.

Maybe it is because I just finished watching House of Cards but the idea that the party president and the rest of the board have more power than the leader of the province makes it look really crooked.
Isn't that basically the same as any party? The leaders have power, but its not absolute.
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Old 03-20-2014, 09:10 AM   #24
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Isn't that basically the same as any party? The leaders have power, but its not absolute.
I served on the board of the Wildrose party for a while and never felt like we had the power to dictate to any of the politicians.

My take on our role was to run the operational side of the party while the elected MLAs took care of the politics.

Maybe it just never came up and I had a lot more power than I was aware of, but from what I saw the board was in charge of things like fundraising and supporting the constituency associations in their efforts to identify candidates and hold candidate selection events.
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I served on the board of the Wildrose party for a while and never felt like we had the power to dictate to any of the politicians.

My take on our role was to run the operational side of the party while the elected MLAs took care of the politics.

Maybe it just never came up and I had a lot more power than I was aware of, but from what I saw the board was in charge of things like fundraising and supporting the constituency associations in their efforts to identify candidates and hold candidate selection events.
I suppose that's true as well. I guess its just not a total vacuum where the leader has absolute authority and can make any decision they like. They're elected by the party and do have to maintain their confidence.
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Old 03-20-2014, 09:19 AM   #26
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I heard Jim Prentice has bigger aspiration like succeeding Harper.
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Bunk, are you saying leadership is a non-issue? I don't understand what you mean.
What I mean is - no matter who becomes leader, are the PCs still just DOA in the next election?

Personally, I think they'll need an outsider to have any chance of resurrecting themselves. But I'm not sure even that will stave off the collapse of the dynasty.
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What I mean is - no matter who becomes leader, are the PCs still just DOA in the next election?

Personally, I think they'll need an outsider to have any chance of resurrecting themselves. But I'm not sure even that will stave off the collapse of the dynasty.
If the PC's have proven anything in their existence, it's that they are extremely skilled at recreating themselves into a mode that people will vote for at election time. I think the PCs are far from dead, but they have a lot of work to do.
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Old 03-20-2014, 09:50 AM   #29
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Personally, I think they'll need an outsider to have any chance of resurrecting themselves...
Bunk, please tell me this IS happening. I've called it back in October!
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Dinning wouldn't spin well in Edmonton, I don't think. Edmonton is very wary of a Calgary-centric premier after the Klein era.

Redford won Edmonton seats because it was a backlash against the WR, not because she was popular here.
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Ric McIver or Gary Mar would be my initial choice among the big names.

In terms of a long shot candidate I think Yvonne Fritz from Calgary could be a good leader for the province but I don't think she would be interested in the job.
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Jim Prentice! Yeah, he'd be great, but that's a pipe dream.

If we're throwing out dream candidates, I want Bret "The Hitman" Hart.

Realistically, we'll probably end up with someone boring like Doug Horner (I always get Doug Horner and Doug Griffiths mixed up - the one with the goatee).
Good fit - the Hit Man is about as articulate as the current cadre, stroke or no stroke.
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Personally, I think they'll need an outsider to have any chance of resurrecting themselves. But I'm not sure even that will stave off the collapse of the dynasty.
Don't under-estimate the any "Anybody but WRP" vote though.

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Ric McIver or Gary Mar would be my initial choice among the big names.
Has McIver developed some ideas of things he believes in, or is he still just a guy who says no to everything? If he's still the same old Ric, he'd be quite the crappy leader.
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McIver is a good man - honest, kind, straightforward and non–sleazy. This is why he will never be a successful politician on a grand scale. I've known Rick for many years and I speak from utmost respect for the guy.
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Has McIver developed some ideas of things he believes in, or is he still just a guy who says no to everything? If he's still the same old Ric, he'd be quite the crappy leader.
Honestly, I wasn't a big fan of Dr.No during the 2010 Municipal election, but since then it seems as though he has changed his political demeanour.

Maybe he was humbled a bit after feeling like a shoe-in in 2010, but to me he does seem like a changed politician. (if there is such a thing).
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twice this morning the name Nenshi came up from different people. Bunk would know more than this speculation, but the name came up from different people here in Edmonton.
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twice this morning the name Nenshi came up from different people. Bunk would know more than this speculation, but the name came up from different people here in Edmonton.
I'd rather reinstate Redford.
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twice this morning the name Nenshi came up from different people. Bunk would know more than this speculation, but the name came up from different people here in Edmonton.
Watch for it. We've got a Klein-like ascent coming up.

P.S. What's really interesting (and, perhaps, a little creepy) is that this scenario was actively discussed 6 months ago.

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twice this morning the name Nenshi came up from different people. Bunk would know more than this speculation, but the name came up from different people here in Edmonton.
Probably because he didn't exactly say no in his statement, which was awesome by the way, yesterday.

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When asked about his own political future -- specifically whether he would be running for the leadership of the Alberta PC Party -- Nenshi didn't say he was going to. But he didn't say he wasn't going to either.

"There will be lots and lots and lots of opportunities to talk about lots and lots and lots of different people," he said. "I can tell you, regardless of whatever role I'm in personally, I will take a very serious part in this next election, always fighting for the interests of Calgarians and Albertans.
http://www.ctvnews.ca/politics/talki...-out-1.1737909
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