10-11-2018, 09:08 PM
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#61
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Scoring Winger
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Yes, let’s grab a bonified starting goalie at the game 4 mark. I’m sure lots of teams are anxious to unload this commodity right now.
Cmon guys...
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10-11-2018, 09:09 PM
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#62
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Originally Posted by codynw
That might be too late to salvage the season though. What percentage of teams that are out of the playoffs at American Thanksgiving miss the playoffs again?
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At .500? Lol, it really isn't.
Heading into December teams above the playoff line are usually 5 or 6 games over. That can definitely be made up in 4 months if that's the case. I think they'll be on the right side of the fence though.
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10-11-2018, 09:12 PM
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#63
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Powerplay Quarterback
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The typical train of thought is that after a shutout you go back to your starter... it doesn't break often.
In this case however, and considering the obvious wear with age and how much rubber he saw from the Preds... I'm really surprised they didn't make the call to Rittich.
I have to give the team benefit of the doubt, but I hope they start to realize (and talk to Smith about the reality of the situation), that it's best for everyone involved to share some time in net when it makes sense.
Instead everyone is questioning the goaltending now. Maybe they just need to better manage the backup situation. At the very least that way you find out if we can get through sharing some time or we need an entirely different starter.
It's so early but they need to figure this out soon.
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10-11-2018, 09:13 PM
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#64
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Lifetime Suspension
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Originally Posted by MisterJoji
Who’s San Jose’s 3rd string goalie? Will they take a 2nd for him?
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Flames in SC finals 15 years ago, 15 years before that. Its destiny.
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10-11-2018, 09:14 PM
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#65
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Acerbic Cyberbully
Join Date: Aug 2003
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Quote:
Originally Posted by ComixZone
6. Father Time has caught Mike Smith and it’s not pretty.
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This is a little premature. Given how Smith played coming off shutouts last year, and couple that with his terrible record in St Louis, and this looks more like an unsurprising loss.
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10-11-2018, 09:14 PM
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#66
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In the Sin Bin
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Quote:
Originally Posted by 2ArmBands
Yes, let’s grab a bonified starting goalie at the game 4 mark. I’m sure lots of teams are anxious to unload this commodity right now.
Cmon guys...
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For sure, more of a reflection of the poor decision making prior to the season. I think they can try to acquire an upper level back up so that they don’t lean so heavily on the old man. The decision to start him tonight was ridiculous. He’s always bad following a shut out so I didn’t understand what they were doing other than being afraid of the guy they have behind him
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10-11-2018, 09:14 PM
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#67
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Feb 2013
Location: Boca Raton, FL
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"70 year old goalie"
Jesus...he's 36.
Luongo is 39
Anderson is 37
Lundqvist is 36
Rinne is 35.
Yes, he's not young, but he's not exactly ancient either.
There are 12 other NHL starting goaltenders in their 30s.
He had a mediocre to bad game. It's not the end of his career.
It just means Rittich probably should have been given the start. Smith needs to manage his workload. That's it.
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10-11-2018, 09:16 PM
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#68
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First Line Centre
Join Date: Jul 2013
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Quote:
Originally Posted by MisterJoji
Who’s San Jose’s 3rd string goalie? Will they take a 2nd for him? At this rate, I think I’d rather have Rittich and Gillies battling it out. Smith has looked horriawful for 3/4 games.
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10-11-2018, 09:16 PM
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#69
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Feb 2012
Location: Phoenix, AZ
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These Smith complaints are ridiculous lol.
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10-11-2018, 09:16 PM
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#70
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Sep 2011
Location: The toilet of Alberta : Edmonton
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Dr. Doom
The typical train of thought is that after a shutout you go back to your starter... it doesn't break often.
In this case however, and considering the obvious wear with age and how much rubber he saw from the Preds... I'm really surprised they didn't make the call to Rittich.
I have to give the team benefit of the doubt, but I hope they start to realize (and talk to Smith about the reality of the situation), that it's best for everyone involved to share some time in net when it makes sense.
Instead everyone is questioning the goaltending now. Maybe they just need to better manage the backup situation. At the very least that way you find out if we can get through sharing some time or we need an entirely different starter.
It's so early but they need to figure this out soon.
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Best case scenario, Rittich comes in, plays great and creates a 1A/B situation.
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10-11-2018, 09:17 PM
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#71
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Franchise Player
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Originally Posted by Textcritic
This is a little premature. Given how Smith played coming off shutouts last year, and couple that with his terrible record in St Louis, and this looks more like an unsurprising loss.
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Yeah, I’m definitely being a touch dramatic - but I do think Smith has been exceptionally bad since February.
A big thing we need from a starting goalie is consistency - and Smith just hasn’t delivered that for some time.
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10-11-2018, 09:19 PM
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#72
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In the Sin Bin
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Cali Panthers Fan
"70 year old goalie"
Jesus...he's 36.
Luongo is 39
Anderson is 37
Lundqvist is 36
Rinne is 35.
Yes, he's not young, but he's not exactly ancient either.
There are 12 other NHL starting goaltenders in their 30s.
He had a mediocre to bad game. It's not the end of his career.
It just means Rittich probably should have been given the start. Smith needs to manage his workload. That's it.
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It’s uhhh... a joke. Hyperbole meant to induce irony. A uh joke. Also, two of those goalies are on completely uncompetitive teams, 1 on a fringe team and he’s already on IR and the last is a still elite player with a ready to start up and comer behind him. So terrible comparison anyway
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10-11-2018, 09:19 PM
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#73
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Resident Videologist
Join Date: Mar 2002
Location: Calgary
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One of the most promising things I've seen in regards to this year's team is that in Games 1 and 4 when down significantly the Flames had big pushes back whereas I felt the team folded up shop easily under Gulutzan.
Of course, getting that big push earlier, or not falling into 3+ goal holes is key going forward, the push back is a big improvement.
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10-11-2018, 09:20 PM
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#74
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Crash and Bang Winger
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Honestly, I think everyone is overreacting to the goaltending situation. We had God-mode Smith last game, and although 5 goals looks bad if you look at each one it's not that bad on Smith. 1st goal was deflected off of Stone, 2nd was a 2 on 1 tap in, 3rd Smith reacted to the missed one timer in the slot and the blues got lucky that Edmundson was right there to finish it off. 4th, hate to see it jump over his stick like that, but it happens, sort of a fluke for St. Louis. and the 5th deflected off Czarnik.
I'm not saying we're going to get God-Mode every night from Smith but I think this was just a weird game. It's still early and I think things will settle themselves out for Smith sooner rather than later. I think everyone just needs to relax about Smith a bit, there were a lot of positives that we could be focusing on instead. Like Sam Bennett for example, he's looking good and I'm starting to get excited for him.
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10-11-2018, 09:23 PM
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#75
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Commie Referee
Join Date: Oct 2002
Location: Small town, B.C.
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I don't know.........I thought Smith looked pretty great early on. They should have been down a goal or two but Smith held the fort until the Flames went up by a goal. I think Steen's shot dipped or deflected, Rasmus made a poor play, Johhny misses the puck and his man and all of a sudden it's 3-1. Wasn't like Smith let in 3 softies.
I get that it would've been nice for him to make one of those stops, but it was one of those games. Flames were hitting posts, missing penalty shots, missing other high quality chances. Just one of those nights.
If Tre can somehow snag a stud #1 goalie, then great, he should be looking and I hope he does find one. But tonight wasn't a game to pin the loss on the goalie IMO.
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10-11-2018, 09:24 PM
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#76
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First Line Centre
Join Date: Jul 2013
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Somebody find this little guy for Saturday
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10-11-2018, 09:25 PM
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#77
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Apr 2008
Location: CGY
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Smith wasn’t the best goalie on the ice tonight and that is why they lost. Pretty even game otherwise. Really enjoying the style of play so far this season
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10-11-2018, 09:30 PM
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#78
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First Line Centre
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Wouldnt it be amazing if one of Rittich or Gillies took the reigns and became a solid starter! I mean that would be better than Bennett rising up and becoming a number one centre. In my opinion the only teams in the Western Conference with a worse starting tender are the Canucks and Blues(whos tender just outplayed Smith tonight).
I hope he proves me wrong and I eat crow. But I just dont see the Flames going far with him. Prove us wrong Smith!
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10-11-2018, 09:32 PM
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#79
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Resident Videologist
Join Date: Mar 2002
Location: Calgary
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Quote:
Originally Posted by KootenayFlamesFan
I don't know.........I thought Smith looked pretty great early on. They should have been down a goal or two but Smith held the fort until the Flames went up by a goal. I think Steen's shot dipped or deflected, Rasmus made a poor play, Johhny misses the puck and his man and all of a sudden it's 3-1. Wasn't like Smith let in 3 softies.
I get that it would've been nice for him to make one of those stops, but it was one of those games. Flames were hitting posts, missing penalty shots, missing other high quality chances. Just one of those nights.
If Tre can somehow snag a stud #1 goalie, then great, he should be looking and I hope he does find one. But tonight wasn't a game to pin the loss on the goalie IMO.
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Yeah, I agree.
Goal 1: Unfortunate as Hanifin looked to brush the puck twice as that slow pass was coming across to Steen, and then Steen appeared the shoot the puck right around Hanifin's leg so Smith didn't get a great look at the shot.
Goal 2: Woof by Andersson.
Goal 3: Pass into the slot goes to Johnny, who fumbles it and lets Edmundson get the shot away.
The giveaway is the only one I blame Smith on. Goal 5 was a high tip with about 4 bodies screening.
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10-11-2018, 09:35 PM
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#80
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Acerbic Cyberbully
Join Date: Aug 2003
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Quote:
Originally Posted by ComixZone
6. Father Time has caught Mike Smith and it’s not pretty.
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This is a little premature. Given how Smith played coming off shutouts last year, and couple that with his terrible record in St Louis, and this looks more like an unsurprising loss.
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