09-21-2021, 10:50 PM
|
#1
|
Franchise Player
|
Friedman: Gaudreau not expected to comment on contract status
From 32 Thoughts:
Quote:
9. Word is that Johnny Gaudreau will say at his first media availability that he will not answer questions about his contract status now that training camp has started. GM Brad Treliving told Sportsnet’s Eric Francis this week the team won’t be providing updates, either. Gaudreau is an unrestricted free agent in July. No distractions.
|
|
|
|
The Following User Says Thank You to ComixZone For This Useful Post:
|
|
09-21-2021, 10:53 PM
|
#2
|
Franchise Player
|
I always love the "no distractions" direction. You can say it, but it's a pretty big distraction regardless.
__________________
Quote:
Originally Posted by MisterJoji
Johnny eats garbage and isn’t 100% committed.
|
|
|
|
The Following 15 Users Say Thank You to nik- For This Useful Post:
|
442scotty,
Barnet Flame,
Boblobla,
cral12,
direwolf,
ignite09,
Igottago,
klikitiklik,
mikephoen,
Rubicant,
Scornfire,
taxbuster,
The Familia,
VladtheImpaler,
zukes
|
09-21-2021, 11:04 PM
|
#3
|
Franchise Player
Join Date: Mar 2002
Location: Calgary
|
Francis will be insufferable, annoyingly making this some sort of self-important mission, taking drive bys at the Flames or Gaudreau weekly during the season in trying to get some sort of response from either side, and consider himself a media "hero" by carrying the responsibility and challenge of trying to get to the bottom of the issue for his own ego stroking.
Also, well aware that this particular point from Friedman could've well been basically made up by Francis as part of that mission, and is fiction.
Last edited by browna; 09-21-2021 at 11:08 PM.
|
|
|
09-21-2021, 11:04 PM
|
#4
|
Franchise Player
Join Date: Dec 2011
Location: Calgary
|
Not really surprising. I just hope they can get something done, whether that's a new contract or a trade. Just don't let him walk for nothing.
|
|
|
The Following 2 Users Say Thank You to N-E-B For This Useful Post:
|
|
09-21-2021, 11:39 PM
|
#5
|
damn onions
|
Quote:
Originally Posted by nik-
I always love the "no distractions" direction. You can say it, but it's a pretty big distraction regardless.
|
Is it though? I’m not sure if this is true to be honest.
|
|
|
09-21-2021, 11:43 PM
|
#6
|
Franchise Player
Join Date: Oct 2001
Location: Vancouver
|
Good. We don’t need either side saying anything that will lower his trade value. If any comments insinuated that a contract extension was unlikely, it would give the team no leverage.
__________________
"A pessimist thinks things can't get any worse. An optimist knows they can."
|
|
|
09-21-2021, 11:44 PM
|
#7
|
Franchise Player
Join Date: Feb 2010
Location: Hyperbole Chamber
|
Contract could be done already and will announce during the season. Or not.
|
|
|
09-21-2021, 11:47 PM
|
#8
|
Celebrated Square Root Day
|
Quote:
Originally Posted by nik-
I always love the "no distractions" direction. You can say it, but it's a pretty big distraction regardless.
|
It's the standard "I'm going to free agency" comment. It was so important to get a contract in place in place before this season or a trade. We didn't manage either, which is kind of how I thought it would go.
I guess if a team on his 5 team trade list agrees then we can still salvage something at the deadline.
|
|
|
The Following 3 Users Say Thank You to jayswin For This Useful Post:
|
|
09-21-2021, 11:57 PM
|
#9
|
damn onions
|
To be fair if I was Gaudreau I’d be pretty damn tempted to go to free agency too. It’s not without huge risk though… career ending injury or not putting up the same numbers he could be playing with fire here pun intended.
Still it’s likely to the tune of like $2-3MM a year over a sizeable term to settle now or go to free agency unrestricted.
Pure guess but I bet the Flames are offering about 7-7.5/yr and he thinks he could get 9-10/yr in free agency. If he is a point per game player, I could see 9 for sure.
|
|
|
09-22-2021, 12:01 AM
|
#10
|
Franchise Player
|
Quote:
Originally Posted by FlamesAddiction
Good. We don’t need either side saying anything that will lower his trade value. If any comments insinuated that a contract extension was unlikely, it would give the team no leverage.
|
If Calgary tries to trade him, it’s pretty much assumed they can’t/ won’t sign him. That cat is already out of the bag.
Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk
|
|
|
09-22-2021, 12:03 AM
|
#11
|
damn onions
|
One thing is for sure, if Treliving doesn’t handle this one right he will for sure be fired. This could be an epic #### up for the Flames. Like possibly worst in franchise history and that’s saying something. They’ve already started to go down a terrifying path by letting this slide to Gaudreau leverage land but not sure what they could have done to prevent that to be honest.
|
|
|
The Following 9 Users Say Thank You to Mr.Coffee For This Useful Post:
|
|
09-22-2021, 01:16 AM
|
#12
|
Franchise Player
|
Quote:
Originally Posted by Mr.Coffee
To be fair if I was Gaudreau I’d be pretty damn tempted to go to free agency too. It’s not without huge risk though… career ending injury or not putting up the same numbers he could be playing with fire here pun intended.
Still it’s likely to the tune of like $2-3MM a year over a sizeable term to settle now or go to free agency unrestricted.
Pure guess but I bet the Flames are offering about 7-7.5/yr and he thinks he could get 9-10/yr in free agency. If he is a point per game player, I could see 9 for sure.
|
Doubt Treliving would insult him that bad, my guess is the offer is about 8.5 and if I was in Johnny's camp would insist on Brayden Point money/term.
|
|
|
09-22-2021, 01:31 AM
|
#13
|
Franchise Player
|
a player with half a year of NHL experience and 2 more points than Gaudreau in said half season just got 9M
he is not taking 7M
__________________
GFG
|
|
|
The Following User Says Thank You to dino7c For This Useful Post:
|
|
09-22-2021, 01:33 AM
|
#14
|
Lifetime Suspension
|
This can only mean things are going well.
|
|
|
09-22-2021, 01:46 AM
|
#15
|
Lifetime Suspension
|
Quote:
Originally Posted by Snuffleupagus
Doubt Treliving would insult him that bad, my guess is the offer is about 8.5 and if I was in Johnny's camp would insist on Brayden Point money/term.
|
If Johnny Gaudreau thinks he is in same stratosphere as Brayden Point he is in for a rude awakening.
|
|
|
09-22-2021, 02:49 AM
|
#16
|
Franchise Player
|
Quote:
Originally Posted by Knightslayer
If Johnny Gaudreau thinks he is in same stratosphere as Brayden Point he is in for a rude awakening.
|
Stats say otherwise and I suspect if Johnny played for a juggernaut like Tampa he would even be more respected as a superstar.
I shake my head at people who can't see the pure talent we have here in him, he does things with the puck that only a handful of players can do and controls the offensive play 90% of the time he's on the ice. No disrespect to Lindholm or Tkachuk ... but he is the flames offense
This team is Arizona north without him.
|
|
|
The Following 33 Users Say Thank You to Snuffleupagus For This Useful Post:
|
14,
1991 Canadian,
bdubbs,
BeltlineFan,
BigFlameDog,
blankall,
csnarpy,
DeluxeMoustache,
dino7c,
direwolf,
dissentowner,
Enoch Root,
Eric Vail,
Erick Estrada,
EVERLAST,
FacePaint,
FanIn80,
foofighter15,
Groot,
Hey Connor, It's Mess,
Joborule,
KevinKlineReadingABook,
Krovikan,
Mass_nerder,
mile,
MrMike,
OldSam,
socalwingfan,
The Yen Man,
tripin_billie,
VilleN,
Winsor_Pilates,
zukes
|
09-22-2021, 03:51 AM
|
#17
|
Franchise Player
|
Quote:
Originally Posted by Knightslayer
If Johnny Gaudreau thinks he is in same stratosphere as Brayden Point he is in for a rude awakening.
|
Gaudreau has better offensive numbers playing with a worse team so I don't think it would be all that hard to argue he is at least in the ballpark
Point has had more success obviously but Point also wasn't on a line with Ritchie or Simon
Gaudreau has 494 points in 520 games for his career, its crazy how little some Flames fans think of him
__________________
GFG
Last edited by dino7c; 09-22-2021 at 03:53 AM.
|
|
|
The Following User Says Thank You to dino7c For This Useful Post:
|
|
09-22-2021, 05:12 AM
|
#18
|
Scoring Winger
|
Treliving must have this whole situation mapped out and things will all make sense some day, right? Otherwise risking and potentially losing Johnny for nothing will be a spectacular failure and will probably spell the end of Tre as a GM in this league.
Maybe ownership won't let him trade Johnny for futures and have told Brad to win now, even at the risk of losing Johnny?
I don't know how else to explain why they would allow this kind of distraction going into a "must win" season.
|
|
|
09-22-2021, 05:35 AM
|
#19
|
Lifetime Suspension
|
Quote:
Originally Posted by dino7c
Gaudreau has better offensive numbers playing with a worse team so I don't think it would be all that hard to argue he is at least in the ballpark
Point has had more success obviously but Point also wasn't on a line with Ritchie or Simon
Gaudreau has 494 points in 520 games for his career, its crazy how little some Flames fans think of him
|
Points aren't the only thing that matters. Do I really need to explain that? 32 teams would rather have the 2 way stud defensive center.
Nobody saying Gaudreau isn't a great player but he isn't on Brayden Points level. Not even close.
|
|
|
The Following 6 Users Say Thank You to Knightslayer For This Useful Post:
|
|
09-22-2021, 06:04 AM
|
#20
|
Franchise Player
Join Date: Jul 2010
Location: Van Island
|
Everything will work out. Sutter will get this team buying in and winning while creating a culture. Everyone will want to be a part of it.
Positive thoughts, keep on thinking positive thoughts.
|
|
|
The Following User Says Thank You to MrMike For This Useful Post:
|
|
Posting Rules
|
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts
HTML code is Off
|
|
|
All times are GMT -6. The time now is 10:15 AM.
|
|