View Poll Results: Pick the best player from the following list
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Mark Giordano
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16.53% |
Robyn Regehr
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1.21% |
Al MacInnis
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201 |
81.05% |
TJ Brodie
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0% |
Gary Suter
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0% |
Jamie Macoun
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0% |
Paul Reinhart
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0% |
Dennis Gauthier
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0% |
Cory Sarich
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0% |
Dion Phaneuf
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1 |
0.40% |
Steve Konroyd
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0% |
Derek Morris
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0% |
Tommy Albelin
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0% |
Frank Musil
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0% |
Phil Housley
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1 |
0.40% |
Toni Lydman
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0% |
Dennis Wideman
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1 |
0.40% |
Jay Bouwmeester
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0% |
Dougie Hamilton
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0% |
Jordan Leopold
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0% |
Rhett Warrener
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0% |
Brad McCrimmon
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0% |
Phil Russell
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0 |
0% |
Ric Nattress
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0% |
Andrew Ference
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0 |
0% |
Neil Sheehy
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0% |
James Patrick
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0% |
Paul Baxter
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0% |
Dana Murzyn
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0% |
06-28-2020, 12:24 PM
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#21
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Join Date: Nov 2002
Location: Hamilton, Ontario
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Have to go with Regehr. Kipper and Iggy get the credit for the 2004 run but Reggie was a beast
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06-28-2020, 12:30 PM
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#22
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Feb 2007
Location: Calgary, AB
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Quote:
Originally Posted by transplant99
This is going to be a fascinating exercise because to me, its pretty clear cut as to the top 5....who the other 2 are after that is where it could go in any direction.
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I’m assuming that Macinnis, Gio, Suter, and Regehr are the locks.
Then I think 3 of Reinhart, Brodie, Housley, Macoun, and Phaneuf make up the top 7.
I know he’s polarizing on here but Phaneuf deserves to be on this roster IMO. He maybe didn’t have the longevity but his peak was great. Was a Calder finalist, Norris runner-up, and 1st team NHL All-Star as a Flame.
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06-28-2020, 12:34 PM
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#23
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Mar 2006
Location: Shanghai
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Quote:
Originally Posted by SuperMatt18
I’m assuming that Macinnis, Gio, Suter, and Regehr are the locks.
Then I think 3 of Reinhart, Brodie, Housley, Macoun, and Phaneuf make up the top 7.
I know he’s polarizing on here but Phaneuf deserves to be on this roster IMO. He maybe didn’t have the longevity but his peak was great. Was a Calder finalist, Norris runner-up, and 1st team NHL All-Star as a Flame.
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Phaneuf, when he was at his peak on the Flames was certainly in that upper echelon. He was such an exciting and impactful player. It's really a shame the ways things went afterwards.
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06-28-2020, 01:07 PM
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#24
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Franchise Player
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I think Phaneuf makes it somewhere in the last 3 spots.
His rookie year was so much fun. He was in a legitimate conversation with Crosby and Ovechkin for Rookie of the year.
The injury that killed his mobility really hurt him a lot.
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06-28-2020, 01:32 PM
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#25
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Powerplay Quarterback
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I actually think Dion's early success says more about how good Roman Hamrlik was then it does about how good Dion was.
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06-28-2020, 05:07 PM
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#26
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Sep 2013
Location: Brisbane
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I love Gio but it was an easy choice for MacInnis. A point per game defenceman with over 800 Flames games and the team's only Conn Smyth.
Overall, I'm thinking the top 6 is set with MacInnis, Gio, Suter, Reinhart, Regehr, and Macoun. Then it's Brodie vs Phaneuf for the 7th spot.
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06-28-2020, 05:13 PM
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#27
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Join Date: Oct 2001
Location: Wondering when # became hashtag and not a number sign.
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Originally Posted by FireGilbert
I love Gio but it was an easy choice for MacInnis. A point per game defenceman with over 800 Flames games and the team's only Conn Smyth.
Overall, I'm thinking the top 6 is set with MacInnis, Gio, Suter, Reinhart, Regehr, and Macoun. Then it's Brodie vs Phaneuf for the 7th spot.
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There is a guy i put before any of Phaneuf, Brodie, Macoun, or Reinhart.
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06-28-2020, 05:14 PM
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#28
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Franchise Player
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Originally Posted by SuperMatt18
I’m assuming that Macinnis, Gio, Suter, and Regehr are the locks.
Then I think 3 of Reinhart, Brodie, Housley, Macoun, and Phaneuf make up the top 7.
I know he’s polarizing on here but Phaneuf deserves to be on this roster IMO. He maybe didn’t have the longevity but his peak was great. Was a Calder finalist, Norris runner-up, and 1st team NHL All-Star as a Flame.
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Brodie has surpassed Regehr in my eyes.
Giordano - MacInnis
Suter - Brodie
Regehr - Reinhart
Phaneuf vs. Macoun for the 7th.
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06-28-2020, 05:19 PM
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#29
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Fearmongerer
Join Date: Oct 2001
Location: Wondering when # became hashtag and not a number sign.
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Originally Posted by ComixZone
Brodie has surpassed Regehr in my eyes.
Giordano - MacInnis
Suter - Brodie
Regehr - Reinhart
Phaneuf vs. Macoun for the 7th.
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You think TJ Brodie is 4th best defenseman in the history of the Calgary Flames???
I mean he might only be the 3rd best Dman on this team right now.
Yikes....strike a huge one for recency bias i guess.
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06-28-2020, 05:25 PM
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#30
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Franchise Player
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Originally Posted by transplant99
There is a guy i put before any of Phaneuf, Brodie, Macoun, or Reinhart.
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I suspect we might both be thinking of the same player. I plan on starting the promotional lobbying after the first four are set... and if we aren't...well your guy sucks!
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06-28-2020, 05:27 PM
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#31
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Franchise Player
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Ended up voting for Giordano. Didn’t see MacInnis play though his stats do speak for themselves. Seeing that he was running away with it, thought Gio could get a few more votes thrown in his way.
Good all-time tip pairing regardless.
Also love the Wideman troll vote.
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06-28-2020, 05:33 PM
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#32
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Franchise Player
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Originally Posted by transplant99
There is a guy i put before any of Phaneuf, Brodie, Macoun, or Reinhart.
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Sarge?
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06-28-2020, 05:34 PM
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#33
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Join Date: Oct 2001
Location: Wondering when # became hashtag and not a number sign.
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Originally Posted by looooob
I suspect we might both be thinking of the same player. I plan on starting the promotional lobbying after the first four are set... and if we aren't...well your guy sucks!
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231 games played baby!!
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06-28-2020, 05:36 PM
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#34
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Franchise Player
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Gio is great but MacInnis is one of the best of all time.
Are we voting LD and RD?
Wherever Gio end up MacInnis and Suter should be a pairing.
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06-28-2020, 05:41 PM
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#35
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Franchise Player
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Originally Posted by transplant99
231 games played baby!!
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he's like Kevin Lowe, but better!
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06-28-2020, 05:59 PM
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#36
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Join Date: Jul 2010
Location: Calgary
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Originally Posted by ignite09
I actually think Dion's early success says more about how good Roman Hamrlik was then it does about how good Dion was.
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Disagree. Phaneuf had his 60 point, Norris runner up season without Hamrlik. Hamrlik was definitely a good player and mentor for him but Dion had his best season without him. Phaneuf was very good in his first 3 seasons, he had hip issues that seemed to derail him.
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06-28-2020, 06:00 PM
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#37
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Sep 2013
Location: Brisbane
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Quote:
Originally Posted by transplant99
There is a guy i put before any of Phaneuf, Brodie, Macoun, or Reinhart.
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Based on the highest scoring defenceman remaining you must mean Phil Housley!
I think you might be talking about the player who once was a second team all star while leading the league in plus minus. Not sure one great season in a short tenure should be enough for this list but am willing to hear the arguments.
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06-28-2020, 06:16 PM
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#38
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Franchise Player
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Originally Posted by FireGilbert
Based on the highest scoring defenceman remaining you must mean Phil Housley!
I think you might be talking about the player who once was a second team all star while leading the league in plus minus. Not sure one great season in a short tenure should be enough for this list but am willing to hear the arguments.
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I will do my best to provide them when the time is right- I realize tenure works against him - am not fully decided where he ranks. in my mind- but he's in the bottom half convo
I will say that even in his 2nd 'not great' season he finished 6th in Norris trophy voting (behind him was Suter then 4 hall of famers including the aforementioned Housley. finished 6th in all star voting, and was a pedestrian +43. oh and the team won the cup that year
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06-28-2020, 06:28 PM
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#39
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Powerplay Quarterback
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Originally Posted by savardandjokinen
Disagree. Phaneuf had his 60 point, Norris runner up season without Hamrlik. Hamrlik was definitely a good player and mentor for him but Dion had his best season without him. Phaneuf was very good in his first 3 seasons, he had hip issues that seemed to derail him.
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Maybe you're correct, but wasn't he also heavily sheltered that year? I could be miss remembering, but that Norris reputation was quickly followed by the whole "he's not even the best defenseman on his team" mantra. I liked Dion, but the shine wore off pretty quick as the years progressed. At least for me.
Anyways, this is an easy Macinnis vote for me. 28+ Gio vs 28+ Al might be a different story, but Al was a #1 from his early 20's on. While Gio didn't hit his full stride until he was half way through his career. Gio is the obvious second choice though.
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06-28-2020, 06:41 PM
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#40
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Join Date: Jul 2010
Location: Calgary
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Originally Posted by ignite09
Maybe you're correct, but wasn't he also heavily sheltered that year? I could be miss remembering, but that Norris reputation was quickly followed by the whole "he's not even the best defenseman on his team" mantra. I liked Dion, but the shine wore off pretty quick as the years progressed. At least for me.
Anyways, this is an easy Macinnis vote for me. 28+ Gio vs 28+ Al might be a different story, but Al was a #1 from his early 20's on. While Gio didn't hit his full stride until he was half way through his career. Gio is the obvious second choice though.
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Dion was 1st on the team and 5th in the league that season with an ATOI (average time on ice) of 26:25 minutes per game. The next closest on the team was Regehr with 21:20. By those stats I’m not sure he was sheltered and I’m not sure he wasn’t the best defence man on the team, however I was a young fan at the time so I might be missing some things but statistically I think he was deserving of it
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