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05-11-2021, 07:11 PM
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First round-bust
Join Date: Feb 2015
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Yeah — I wasn't even consulted on that move (or a bunch of other similar ones) before it happened.
If you want to owe somebody else a first knowing you're getting a first, great. I do that all the time. But please don't put the impetus on me to send that first directly to somebody new.
Particularly given, if I'm making a trade involving a conditional first with a particular GM, I might have an understanding about how that GM trades and values picks and that they might be willing to do different sorts of supplementary deals to satisfy that condition in the future. That's why I would consent to owe a pick in the first place. That can totally differ based on which GM I'm trading with. I would usually try to avoid owing Dave a pick, for instance, because I know he's pretty steadfast about what and how he values particular assets.
I ended up having to sift through like four different conditions to figure out to whom I owed a top-26 pick a few weeks ago. I figured it out eventually, but it was a pain in the ass.
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05-11-2021, 08:21 PM
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Join Date: Jul 2010
Location: Calgary
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Sorry I just did it because I’ve done it before and there was never an issue presented that time
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05-11-2021, 08:30 PM
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#5
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First round-bust
Join Date: Feb 2015
Location: speculating about AHL players
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Originally Posted by savardandjokinen
Sorry I just did it because I’ve done it before and there was never an issue presented that time
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no worries pal
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05-11-2021, 08:34 PM
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#7
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First round-bust
Join Date: Feb 2015
Location: speculating about AHL players
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Originally Posted by Knut
In regard to the moving of an owed asset. I don’t think it should matter if a pick you send is moved, even if conditional. You moved the asset.
You can’t get mad when someone deals a player to Dave and then flips him to someone else.
Once the asset is gone, it’s gone.
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sure but if I owe a 1st to Florida and then Florida owes a 1st to Dallas, that should be viewed as two separate transactions. I shouldn't be expected to facilitate the second one.
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05-11-2021, 09:05 PM
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Nov 2002
Location: Hamilton, Ontario
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Originally Posted by TheScorpion
sure but if I owe a 1st to Florida and then Florida owes a 1st to Dallas, that should be viewed as two separate transactions. I shouldn't be expected to facilitate the second one.
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I would just send your first to Florida, and close shop and call it a day as condition met and move on to your next one
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05-11-2021, 09:11 PM
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#9
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First Line Centre
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Scorp raises a good point. I guess instead of me combining it into 1 trade making Scorp sending a pick he owes me elsewhere, I should just make it a separate deal. I will do this moving forward.
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05-12-2021, 04:22 AM
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#10
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Jun 2003
Location: N/A
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Originally Posted by Knut
Personally I find it insane how many conditions are out there in the league. Trading first rounders two years from now is a great way to sewer your franchise value.
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Or to get million dolla bills and whoop it up now!
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