06-22-2019, 11:43 AM
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#21
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First round-bust
Join Date: Feb 2015
Location: speculating about AHL players
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Why are the Canucks trading firsts? Weird.
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06-22-2019, 11:43 AM
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#22
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Feb 2007
Location: Calgary, AB
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That’s a lot to give up for a cap dump
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06-22-2019, 11:43 AM
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#23
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#1 Goaltender
Join Date: Apr 2006
Location: Sadly not in the Dome.
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Give up a first in a cap dump? I like Miller a lot but no way I do that on a rebuilding team?
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06-22-2019, 11:44 AM
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#24
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Scoring Winger
Join Date: Jan 2013
Location: Vancouver
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the conditional 1st scared the f out of me, but thankfully its protected.
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06-22-2019, 11:44 AM
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#25
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Feb 2007
Location: Calgary, AB
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That’s a lot to give up for a cap dump
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06-22-2019, 11:44 AM
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#26
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Franchise Player
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The 1st is protected next year if canucks miss playoffs
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06-22-2019, 11:46 AM
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#27
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First Line Centre
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Yikes. The Canucks will still be in trouble next season too. It's not like delaying the first round pick by a year really helps them much, beyond the fact it's delayed a year.
The other issue with these 'conditional 1sts' is that it more or less ties up a trading chip, should they want to use it in the future. This summer/season, they can't trade either 2020 or 2021 first round pick, until it's confirmed which pick they have traded away.
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06-22-2019, 11:46 AM
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#28
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Franchise Player
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This is not a cap dump trade really. Lightning getting good value for a good player.
Some very cool deals so far today.
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06-22-2019, 11:47 AM
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#29
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All I can get
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That could easily turn into a 2021 first over-all.
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06-22-2019, 11:47 AM
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#30
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Franchise Player
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With the protection I like the deal, hes a 50 point top 6 winger, on a good deal and for term, only 26 too
Hes also an analytics guy, an article on the athletic last week listed him as a guy the Canucks should go after as his playmaking shows up really well in the fancy stats
This isnt a cap dump
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06-22-2019, 11:47 AM
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#31
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Feb 2010
Location: Hyperbole Chamber
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Quote:
Originally Posted by SuperMatt18
That’s a lot to give up for a cap dump
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47pts in 75 games is not a cap dump.
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06-22-2019, 11:48 AM
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#32
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#1 Goaltender
Join Date: Apr 2009
Location: Back in Calgary!!
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It seems the Canucks think that the rebuild is just about over.
Petterson, Horvat, Beoser. Re-signing Edler. Now adding Miller.
Theyre amassing some good players, but they really need to keep stockpiling on Defence. Thats a pretty big weakness.
Oh, and VAN=NG
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06-22-2019, 11:51 AM
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#33
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First Line Centre
Join Date: Feb 2013
Location: Lethbridge
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A 1st for a 40 point cap dump. Oh Benning.
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06-22-2019, 11:51 AM
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#34
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Powerplay Quarterback
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Quote:
Originally Posted by d_phaneuf
The 1st is protected next year if canucks miss playoffs
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If that happens, and they miss again in 2021 (entirely possible), that's a lotto pick for JT Miller... from a rebuilding team that realistically is 2-3 years out. I think best case scenario for the nucks, that pick turns out to be 15-20OA in 2021. It also has potential of being a total disaster if it wins the lottery in 2021. Risky move by a GM probably being pressured from above. I would hate this if I was a Van fan. Miller's a good player but not the missing piece for a middling team.
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06-22-2019, 11:52 AM
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#35
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Powerplay Quarterback
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Reggie Dunlop
That could easily turn into a 2021 first over-all.
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Can you imagine the riots?
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06-22-2019, 11:54 AM
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#36
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Scoring Winger
Join Date: Jan 2013
Location: Vancouver
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Quote:
Originally Posted by TheoFleury
If that happens, and they miss again in 2021 (entirely possible), that's a lotto pick for JT Miller... from a rebuilding team that realistically is 2-3 years out. I think best case scenario for the nucks, that pick turns out to be 15-20OA in 2021. It also has potential of being a total disaster if it wins the lottery in 2021. Risky move by a GM probably being pressured from above. I would hate this if I was a Van fan. Miller's a good player but not the missing piece for a middling team.
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I still love this deal, the pick is protected and by 2021 the Canucks should be a playoff team with Petersson and Hughes leading the way.
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06-22-2019, 11:55 AM
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#37
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Oct 2006
Location: San Fernando Valley
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I think the player is fine but the price is too steep as this is a steal for the Lightning. Canucks are trying to accelerate the rebuild here and I wouldn't be happy if I was a fan as shortcutting rebuilds usually leads to mediocrity.
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06-22-2019, 11:55 AM
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#38
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Oct 2006
Location: San Fernando Valley
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Barca
I still love this deal, the pick is protected and by 2021 the Canucks should be a playoff team with Petersson and Hughes leading the way.
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This is a wildly optimistic post.
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06-22-2019, 11:58 AM
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#39
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Lifetime Suspension
Join Date: Sep 2005
Location: The Void between Darkness and Light
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JT Miller scored as many points last season as backlund....
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06-22-2019, 11:59 AM
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#40
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Oct 2006
Location: San Fernando Valley
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Flash Walken
JT Miller scored as many points last season as backlund....
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Yep and Backlund is ideally a 3rd line center on a contending team so steep price to pay for sure.
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