06-20-2019, 12:11 PM
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#121
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Oct 2006
Location: San Fernando Valley
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Originally Posted by FanIn80
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Scott Powers woof! Carlson first is bad in itself but he actually thought Karlsson was better than Burns last year which is like saying Brodie was better than Gio for the Flames. This guy should have his voting privileges revoked.
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06-20-2019, 12:41 PM
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#122
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GOAT!
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Incidentally, I just realized that Jason Botchford passed away in May at the age of 48. I'm sure it was posted here, but I just noticed it while reading up on some Gio news from around the web.
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06-20-2019, 12:56 PM
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#123
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Farm Team Player
Join Date: Aug 2010
Location: Enemy Territory
Exp: 
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Originally Posted by FanIn80
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Scott Powers' selections reek of "smartest-guy-in-the-room" syndrome.
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06-20-2019, 12:57 PM
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#124
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Oct 2014
Location: Springbank
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Originally Posted by djsFlames
These Athletic guys are not very bright.
Carlson is a poor choice, if they even skimmed through enough of Gio's games, they'd see he clearly had the better season. Hopefully those writers are mainly covering eastern teams cause they obviously don't watch the west.
It was a landslide otherwise though so no big deal.
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Originally Posted by Erick Estrada
Scott Powers woof! Carlson first is bad in itself but he actually thought Karlsson was better than Burns last year which is like saying Brodie was better than Gio for the Flames. This guy should have his voting privileges revoked.
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I'm betting his rationale is something like "Burns isn't even really a defenceman".
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06-20-2019, 01:09 PM
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#125
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First Line Centre
Join Date: Sep 2002
Location: Fort Collins, CO
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Originally Posted by Textcritic
It is interesting to me that you are not only willing to give Giordano a pass for his playoff performance, but to go one step further and laud him as an example for other players to follow, considering that he was equally bad as most of the Flames's glaringly ineffective top players.
I am not in any way disparaging Giordano. (I have long been on record that this year's playoff debacle was the result of various random, correctable factors, and I expect much better next year.) Rather, I am pointing out the peculiar discrepancy in how some posters choose to evaluate certain players over others.
Anyhow, Giordano is awesome.
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Sorry, I was not trying to defend Giordano's playoff performance this year in games 2-5, but moreover wanting to point out how truly awesome he is on the vast majority of his shifts let alone his games played.
I think Giordano would be the first player to admit his play was not where he wanted it to be in this season's playoffs.
That being said poor play has a way of rubbing off in an infectious way to other players and I would put his playoff performance 4th if I had to rank him against Hamonic, Hanifin, and Brodie.
Giordano is a warrior and I hope he never wears another jersey in his career.
He seemed genuinely proud during his Norris Trophy acceptance speech to say thank you to the Calgary Flames organization and being the only team he's every played for.
Giordano IS awesome!
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06-20-2019, 01:14 PM
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#126
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#1 Goaltender
Join Date: Jul 2014
Location: Northern Crater
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Originally Posted by iamca
Sorry, I was not trying to defend Giordano's playoff performance this year in games 2-5, but moreover wanting to point out how truly awesome he is on the vast majority of his shifts let alone his games played.
I think Giordano would be the first player to admit his play was not where he wanted it to be in this season's playoffs.
That being said poor play has a way of rubbing off in an infectious way to other players and I would put his playoff performance 4th if I had to rank him against Hamonic, Hanifin, and Brodie.
Giordano is a warrior and I hope he never wears another jersey in his career.
He seemed genuinely proud during his Norris Trophy acceptance speech to say thank you to the Calgary Flames organization and being the only team he's every played for.
Giordano IS awesome!
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I'm sorry, do you think Gio was worse than Hanifin and Hanonic? It was an endless fire drill all series whenever those two were out there.
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06-20-2019, 01:36 PM
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#127
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Lifetime Suspension
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Originally Posted by GioforPM
Botchford is Vancouver and Glennon is Nashville. They each saw more of Gio than Carlson, in all likelihood
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Well, that's a headscratcher.
Last edited by djsFlames; 06-20-2019 at 01:59 PM.
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06-20-2019, 01:42 PM
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#128
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First Line Centre
Join Date: Sep 2002
Location: Fort Collins, CO
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Originally Posted by Fire of the Phoenix
I'm sorry, do you think Gio was worse than Hanifin and Hanonic? It was an endless fire drill all series whenever those two were out there.
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This order was from worst to best in our top 4 during the first round, so I was saying no free pass, but much better than Hamonic, Hanifin, and Brodie.
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06-20-2019, 01:42 PM
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#129
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Oct 2005
Location: Calgary, AB
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How does someone win the Norris voting so convincingly along with make 1st team all-star but not make the all-star game? Something is wrong there.
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06-20-2019, 01:55 PM
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#130
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Franchise Player
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Originally Posted by FanIn80
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The most puzzling thing about this, is Erik Karlson getting any votes after the season he had. 
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06-20-2019, 01:56 PM
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#131
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Franchise Player
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Quote:
Originally Posted by pepper24
How does someone win the Norris voting so convincingly along with make 1st team all-star but not make the all-star game? Something is wrong there.
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Because people in Edmonton had a say
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06-20-2019, 01:58 PM
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#132
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Lifetime Suspension
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Man, this is a pretty big deal and so far is flying under the radar a bit around town.
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06-20-2019, 02:04 PM
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#133
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Franchise Player
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Quote:
Originally Posted by pepper24
How does someone win the Norris voting so convincingly along with make 1st team all-star but not make the all-star game? Something is wrong there.
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The all-star game is basically fan appreciation. They send marketable stars with fancy moves, and they try to limit it to one player per team. Johnny is the obvious choice because of his dangles.
The end of year all-star team is the recognition that matters.
But I concede that it's silly he wins the Norris in a landslide but doesn't make the ASG.
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06-21-2019, 02:41 AM
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#134
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Dec 2011
Location: Calgary
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Quote:
Originally Posted by pepper24
How does someone win the Norris voting so convincingly along with make 1st team all-star but not make the all-star game? Something is wrong there.
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The NHL was pandering to the hometown crowd in San Jose. Karlsson shouldn’t have been there.
Then they let the fans pick the last spot, and since fans as a whole are generally morons they voted in Draisaitl instead of Gio.
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06-21-2019, 05:46 AM
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#135
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#1 Goaltender
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Originally Posted by djsFlames
Man, this is a pretty big deal and so far is flying under the radar a bit around town.
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Really poor playoff performance from the Flames will do that.
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06-21-2019, 07:55 AM
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#136
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Feb 2006
Location: Calgary, AB
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Quote:
Originally Posted by N-E-B
The NHL was pandering to the hometown crowd in San Jose. Karlsson shouldn’t have been there.
Then they let the fans pick the last spot, and since fans as a whole are generally morons they voted in Draisaitl instead of Gio.
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Yup, and Doughty was there ahead of Gio because they needed someone from the Kings.
The stupid thing is that not only did they not need to put Karlsson in the game to pander to the hometown fans because there were already 2 Sharks in the game, but Karlsson was hurt at the time and easily could have backed out to let Gio have the spot. Karlsson didn't play in a regular game for a full month from January 16 to February 16, but decided to play in the All-Star Game.
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06-21-2019, 08:06 AM
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#137
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Franchise Player
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Congrats to Gio, what an impressive accomplishment
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06-21-2019, 10:40 AM
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#138
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Franchise Player
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Fire of the Phoenix
I'm sorry, do you think Gio was worse than Hanifin and Hanonic? It was an endless fire drill all series whenever those two were out there.
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It was a fire drill no matter who was out there.
Hanifin-Hamonic was a great pairing all year long. Hanifin is an absolute stud, and we're lucky to have him at under $5M for the next five years.
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06-21-2019, 04:44 PM
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#139
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Not the 1 millionth post winnar
Join Date: Aug 2004
Location: Los Angeles
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First time I've smiled re: the Flames this summer.
Thanks for that!
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