04-18-2023, 04:08 PM
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#701
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Originally Posted by OutOfTheCube
The best grossing movies in Japan in any given year usually pull in around $100M US -- probably a good expectation for this.
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Yeah, I just dont know what the Japanese perspective of Mario really is.
If he is the avatar that their ancestors designed to sucker, screw and bilk the filthy stupid Westerners or if he's like some sort of strange national hero destined to one day rule all of Japan.
I just dont know.
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04-18-2023, 04:16 PM
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#702
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Lifetime Suspension
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The highest grossing movie in Japan ever came out in 2020, an R-rated animation "Demon Slayer the Movie: Mugen Train" @ $300M. 2nd place is "Spirited Away (2001)" @ $240M. It'll be interesting to see how Mario does in comparison and if the japanese consider it one of their own or just another american product.
E: I have no clue about the demon slayer movie and it's on my list of movies to watch now.
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04-18-2023, 04:19 PM
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#703
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Originally Posted by Locke
Yeah, I just dont know what the Japanese perspective of Mario really is.
If he is the avatar that their ancestors designed to sucker, screw and bilk the filthy stupid Westerners or if he's like some sort of strange national hero destined to one day rule all of Japan.
I just dont know.
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I mean PM Abe Shinzo ejected from a green warp pipe dressed as Mario at the Rio closing ceremonies to announce the next games. To not answer your question.
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04-18-2023, 04:23 PM
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#704
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Originally Posted by Sr. Mints
I mean PM Abe Shinzo ejected from a green warp pipe dressed as Mario at the Rio closing ceremonies to announce the next games. To not answer your question.
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Thanks...for not answering my question.
Is he a revered National Hero or some kind of insidious National 'inside joke' on the rest of the world!?!
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05-04-2023, 01:18 PM
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#706
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Originally Posted by Matata
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You're looking at it too hard from a North American box office perspective. It's the 11th biggest opening weekend of all time for a movie in Japan.
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05-04-2023, 01:39 PM
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#707
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Ate 100 Treadmills
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Originally Posted by Matata
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Even if it only did $14 million, that would still put it on pace to break $20 million by the end of the week there.
Mario just broke a billion and still pulling in big numbers on the weekends. My guess is that it will end up at least top 8 all time. Pretty impressive on a $100 million budget. Advertisement costs looked somewhat high, but this movie is printing money right now.
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05-04-2023, 01:49 PM
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#708
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Lifetime Suspension
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Originally Posted by OutOfTheCube
You're looking at it too hard from a North American box office perspective. It's the 11th biggest opening weekend of all time for a movie in Japan.
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Can you share? I can't find these numbers.
Unless a films a big hit, it usually makes 1/4-1/2 of it's money in the first weekend. Maybe japan has a culture where this can find the legs to get to $100M, which is the typical high water mark for a hit movie in japan.
Last edited by Matata; 05-04-2023 at 01:53 PM.
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05-04-2023, 02:16 PM
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#709
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Matata
Can you share? I can't find these numbers.
Unless a films a big hit, it usually makes 1/4-1/2 of it's money in the first weekend. Maybe japan has a culture where this can find the legs to get to $100M, which is the typical high water mark for a hit movie in japan.
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Found it here:
https://www.crunchyroll.com/anime-ne...y-opening-ever
Movies typically play with much longer legs in Japan as well -- a $14 M opening weekend there is probably good for a $100M overall, which is very strong for Japan, especially for a Hollywood movie.
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05-07-2023, 06:03 PM
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#710
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Quote:
Originally Posted by OutOfTheCube
Found it here:
https://www.crunchyroll.com/anime-ne...y-opening-ever
Movies typically play with much longer legs in Japan as well -- a $14 M opening weekend there is probably good for a $100M overall, which is very strong for Japan, especially for a Hollywood movie. |
My company only has Japan data back to 2007, but the 4 movies that did a better opening weekend all hit above 100M so I'd say it has a good chance. Funnily enough, the all time best movie we have data for (Frozen) only did 7.5 M opening weekend but ended up just shy of 250M.
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05-08-2023, 10:12 AM
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#711
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Ate 100 Treadmills
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Pretty big drop off for Mario Bros this weekend. Part of that could be due to competition from GotG3 though.
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06-05-2023, 10:47 AM
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#713
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Across the Spider-Verse pulls in a huge $120M on opening weekend -- the first movie in that series only did $35M opening weekend and $190M total. Huge growth and obvious to see how it grew largely off of word-of-mouth after theatre release. That's the second best opener of the year behind only Mario, and ahead of MCU comic book films GotG 3 and Ant-Man.
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06-05-2023, 01:25 PM
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#714
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Originally Posted by OutOfTheCube
Across the Spider-Verse pulls in a huge $120M on opening weekend -- the first movie in that series only did $35M opening weekend and $190M total. Huge growth and obvious to see how it grew largely off of word-of-mouth after theatre release. That's the second best opener of the year behind only Mario, and ahead of MCU comic book films GotG 3 and Ant-Man.
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INTSV was an unknown quantity going head to head with an established Marvel franchise that already had a good Spiderman character, so it started slow and grew.
ATSV is going to preform like a normal marvel movie +/- 2.5 x opening. Should land at a very respectable $400M+/-, nice growth from the first movie, but I think the $35M opening to $190 total doesn't really play into the projections for this one going forward. Far from home and The Batman are probably good points of comparison based on this weekend.
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06-05-2023, 05:56 PM
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#715
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I hope spiderman never goes back to Disney. The mouse just sucks.
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06-05-2023, 06:20 PM
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#716
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Originally Posted by Johnny Makarov
I hope spiderman never goes back to Disney. The mouse just sucks.
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The revitalization of Spider-Man was the mouse unless you hate the most recent trilogy.
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06-06-2023, 06:50 AM
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Lifetime Suspension
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Spiderman came from phase 3 MCU, back when it was run by competent film makers and disney was happy to let it run its course. Phase 4 MCU has the mouses dirty finger prints all over it.
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06-06-2023, 08:57 AM
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#718
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Zero chance Sony ever lets Spider-Man go away unless Disney pays a fortune for it. That franchise is a golden goose for them.
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06-06-2023, 10:26 AM
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#719
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Ate 100 Treadmills
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Originally Posted by OutOfTheCube
Zero chance Sony ever lets Spider-Man go away unless Disney pays a fortune for it. That franchise is a golden goose for them.
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Sony was fairly smart, allowing the Marvel tentpoles to advertise Spiderman but also making the Spiderman universe independent of the MCU.
Even the "not so successful" side projects like Venom 2 made a load of cash. Morbius, which was seen as a huge failure, still probably broke even with a take of $167 million plus streaming. It only had a budget of $75-83 million, which is low by superhero standards.
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06-06-2023, 10:28 AM
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#720
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Matata
Spiderman came from phase 3 MCU, back when it was run by competent film makers and disney was happy to let it run its course. Phase 4 MCU has the mouses dirty finger prints all over it.
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There is no evidence to support that Feige in phase 3 has any more or less independence than in phase 4. No Way Home was the biggest movie in phase 4.
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