10-08-2023, 04:26 PM
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#221
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First Line Centre
Join Date: Dec 2013
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Originally Posted by fotze2
There has to be a mass exodus out of Gaza right now you would think.
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To where?
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10-08-2023, 04:27 PM
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#222
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Join Date: Mar 2007
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Quote:
Originally Posted by fotze2
There has to be a mass exodus out of Gaza right now you would think.
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Well its not like they're going to bomb the hell out of it, its still largely a residential area for civilians as far as I understand.
But...the Gaza Strip is right on the coast...park a few Warships in the harbour and...folks are going to think twice before causing a ruckus.
That said, this is a fight I wouldnt want to get in the middle of, but maybe...this can calm tensions until cooler heads can prevail?
But when it comes down to Palestinians and Israelis...I dont think there are any 'cool heads.'
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10-08-2023, 04:30 PM
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#223
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Join Date: Jan 2009
Location: Calgary
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Originally Posted by Locke
Lol.
Hamas: "Bringing in the USS Gerald R. Ford doesnt scare us!"
USA: "BS. It will."
Uh...and I'm far from a military expert but per my understanding Aircraft Carriers dont tend to sail alone...they usually have a significant support fleet?
Either way...you know what'll ruin your day real fast? Fighter Jets.
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I mean.... US fighter jets vs Israeli fighter jets. Why does Hamas care what flag is on the side of the F35s bombing them?
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10-08-2023, 04:35 PM
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#224
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Locke
Lol.
Hamas: "Bringing in the USS Gerald R. Ford doesnt scare us!"
USA: "BS. It will."
Uh...and I'm far from a military expert but per my understanding Aircraft Carriers dont tend to sail alone...they usually have a significant support fleet?
Either way...you know what'll ruin your day real fast? Fighter Jets.
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Indeed they do, a cruiser or two, three or four destroyers and likely a sub or two nearby, if needed, enough firepower to make it a bad day for the whole middle east.
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10-08-2023, 04:39 PM
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#225
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Join Date: Jun 2011
Location: Calgary
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A floating city with a support fleet of the meanest war tech in world showing up on your doorstep doesn't scare you Hamas? Okay.
I'm probably talking out my ass a bit here but this flare up feels like the rules are different this time. The meat shield isn't going to work. If Syria. Lebanon want to to kick in against Israel, you should at least expect some of Israel's friends to show up. The Gerald R. Ford is the ultimate expression of " F*** around and find out".
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10-08-2023, 04:42 PM
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#226
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You have to think at some point Israel needs to eliminate the Hezbollah threat from south Lebanon and that Israeli leadership is seriously considering the now v later question.
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10-08-2023, 05:01 PM
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Join Date: Jan 2010
Location: Calgary
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Originally Posted by Party Elephant
To where?
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Maldives? Switzerland? Canada?
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10-08-2023, 05:20 PM
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#228
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Join Date: Oct 2001
Location: Vancouver
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Poland is sending 200 soldiers to Israel to evacuate their citizens. Speculation is that Polish citizens may have been taken hostage and pulled into Gaza.
https://twitter.com/user/status/1711157145863868626
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Last edited by FlamesAddiction; 10-08-2023 at 05:23 PM.
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10-08-2023, 05:22 PM
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#229
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Ate 100 Treadmills
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Quote:
Originally Posted by dammage79
A floating city with a support fleet of the meanest war tech in world showing up on your doorstep doesn't scare you Hamas? Okay.
I'm probably talking out my ass a bit here but this flare up feels like the rules are different this time. The meat shield isn't going to work. If Syria. Lebanon want to to kick in against Israel, you should at least expect some of Israel's friends to show up. The Gerald R. Ford is the ultimate expression of " F*** around and find out".
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You're making the assumption that Hamas cares anything for its own civilians. Hamas, economically, is funded by external powers, so they don't even need their own people to produce funds or weapons for them.
Hamas has purposely imbedded themselves, as much as possible, amongst civilian targets. So they know that they will survive any kind of military operation.
Israel should switch up their strategy. The current strategy of a large strike followed by breathing room for Hamas to restock isn't working. Israel would be much better off never calling a cease fire. Instead of hitting Hamas all at once, take a prolonged strategy. Anytime an Hamas member goes out in public, they strike. No more letting Hamas regroup and restock.
The issue would be that external powers have always stepped in to stop Israel. As bad as this massacre has been, the international community may have forgotten all about it, if Israel is hitting a Hamas member a year from now.
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10-08-2023, 05:24 PM
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#230
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Ate 100 Treadmills
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Originally Posted by FlamesAddiction
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This is crazy. Is Poland going to send troops into Gaza? This could just be for moral support to evacuate citizens?
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10-08-2023, 05:29 PM
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#231
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Originally Posted by CaptainYooh
Maldives? Switzerland? Canada?
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Lol, Canada it is
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10-08-2023, 05:36 PM
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#232
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Powerplay Quarterback
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I know nothing of ordinance. Would civilians have any idea these rocket systems are in / on their apartments? I would guess at this point if something launches from a building, there will be incoming within minutes if not seconds given all the ships, planes, etc in the area? Or are these one and done rocket systems you don’t waste time targeting after the fact?
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10-08-2023, 05:51 PM
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#233
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Join Date: Mar 2012
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Originally Posted by Brendone
I know nothing of ordinance. Would civilians have any idea these rocket systems are in / on their apartments? I would guess at this point if something launches from a building, there will be incoming within minutes if not seconds given all the ships, planes, etc in the area? Or are these one and done rocket systems you don’t waste time targeting after the fact?
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In my experience people would be very aware rockets were being launched from their roofs.
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10-08-2023, 05:52 PM
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Scoring Winger
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Crazy thought, instead of sending a warship the U.S. should tell Israel to stop making the living conditions horrible for the Palestinians and tell it to stop building illegal settlements (which is an act of war).
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10-08-2023, 05:56 PM
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Join Date: Oct 2008
Location: Westside
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Quote:
Originally Posted by blankall
Israel should switch up their strategy. The current strategy of a large strike followed by breathing room for Hamas to restock isn't working. Israel would be much better off never calling a cease fire. Instead of hitting Hamas all at once, take a prolonged strategy. Anytime an Hamas member goes out in public, they strike. No more letting Hamas regroup and restock.
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Strategy most recently has been to soften their security perimeter and establish the ability for Gazans to enter Israel to possibly work. This will be viewed as a possible weakness and root cause.
Things went from tough to worse in Gaza. We might see Israel permanently close borders, water, coastline. Gaza is a threat and Israel might starve them out until concessions are made (prisoners returned, arrests of those in charge) and until Gaza has a civil war.
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10-08-2023, 06:17 PM
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#236
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Join Date: Oct 2001
Location: Vancouver
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Quote:
Originally Posted by blankall
This is crazy. Is Poland going to send troops into Gaza? This could just be for moral support to evacuate citizens?
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I don’t know but 200 special forces seems like a lot just for a typical evacuation.
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10-08-2023, 06:21 PM
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#237
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Franchise Player
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Originally Posted by WCW Nitro
Crazy thought, instead of sending a warship the U.S. should tell Israel to stop making the living conditions horrible for the Palestinians and tell it to stop building illegal settlements (which is an act of war).
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Yup
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10-08-2023, 06:56 PM
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#238
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Ate 100 Treadmills
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Originally Posted by Nage Waza
Strategy most recently has been to soften their security perimeter and establish the ability for Gazans to enter Israel to possibly work. This will be viewed as a possible weakness and root cause.
Things went from tough to worse in Gaza. We might see Israel permanently close borders, water, coastline. Gaza is a threat and Israel might starve them out until concessions are made (prisoners returned, arrests of those in charge) and until Gaza has a civil war.
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I would presume that's a given going forward. No more work permits and a beefed up border force.
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10-08-2023, 07:28 PM
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Scoring Winger
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Originally Posted by WCW Nitro
Crazy thought, instead of sending a warship the U.S. should tell Israel to stop making the living conditions horrible for the Palestinians and tell it to stop building illegal settlements (which is an act of war).
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Or another idea, maybe the Palistinian people, who have been suffering for years on end, can decide that maybe Hamas isn’t actually looking out for their best interests.
Crazy thought - how is Israel supposed to make the living conditions better in a place where the ruling government is hell bent on the destruction of the Jewish state?
Care to ever wonder why Egypt, another Muslim country, also has a blockade on Gaza?
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10-08-2023, 07:36 PM
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#240
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Scoring Winger
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Originally Posted by Language
Or another idea, maybe the Palistinian people, who have been suffering for years on end, can decide that maybe Hamas isn’t actually looking out for their best interests.
Crazy thought - how is Israel supposed to make the living conditions better in a place where the ruling government is hell bent on the destruction of the Jewish state?
Care to ever wonder why Egypt, another Muslim country, also has a blockade on Gaza?
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The West Bank does not have Hamas as the leadership, and Israel builds settlements there too. This is an excuse used by Israel about Hamas, the truth is Israel will keep building and taking land and delaying negotiations until there's nothing left to negotiate
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