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habernac · 03-09-2018, 11:59 AM

Is Sherman too much of a diva to deal with? Or was his injury worse than expected?

Galakanokis · 03-09-2018, 12:01 PM

I'll take Worley for sure. Some thought he was the Panther's best corner by the end of the year. Mills, Jones, Worley is a young pretty good secondary.

Erick Estrada · 03-09-2018, 12:15 PM

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Is Sherman too much of a diva to deal with? Or was his injury worse than expected?

All of the above and the fact he's 30 and his game has been starting to decline. I'm pretty sure Carroll was getting tired of him second guessing the coaches in the media. The achilles injury is a tough one to come back from and he's had surgery on both so I would expect at next season at the very least he won't be 100% if he ever gets back to 100%. He's also declined a bit over the past few seasons but even at that he's been very good but it's hard to tell just how good Sherman ever was because he's had the benefit of playing with two of the greatest safeties in history over his career in Thomas (in particular) and Chancellor in that cover 3 defense. CB's that have left Seattle have not fared well on other teams so it's possible Sheman gets exposed on a lesser defense or different scheme.

I don't know how many Hawks fans are here but I would get prepared for some rough years ahead. They are turning over some stellar talent and even though it's Carroll's defense they have the worst defensive coordinator I have seen in my life in KNJ. Even as a puppet coordinator I would expect a drop off in coaching here.

DropIt · 03-09-2018, 12:48 PM

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Is Sherman too much of a diva to deal with? Or was his injury worse than expected?

Older guy coming off an ACL injury. Pair that with his media and sideline antics and I can see why nobody traded for him

DropIt · 03-09-2018, 12:51 PM

The same situation seemed to happen to Pete Carrol in USC. Seems the coaching approach he has works until in unravels from the locker room outwards.

DropIt · 03-09-2018, 02:26 PM

Jarvis Landry to the Browns.

devo22 · 03-09-2018, 04:05 PM

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Jarvis Landry to the Browns.

and Tyrod Taylor.

Seems like I was mistaken, and they indeed are targeting Barkley at #1.

DropIt · 03-09-2018, 04:13 PM

Yup. This would all but confirm Barkley at #1

DropIt · 03-09-2018, 04:17 PM

So now do the Giants draft their future QB or take Chubb now. The mocks are sure to look a lot different noe

DropIt · 03-09-2018, 04:25 PM

Browns may not be done. Trade with Packers incoming?

John Dorsey must have just finished watching Draft Day

devo22 · 03-09-2018, 04:42 PM

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Browns may not be done. Trade with Packers incoming?

John Dorsey must have just finished watching Draft Day

involving Damarious Randall and DeShone Kizer apparently ... wow.

ResAlien · 03-09-2018, 05:06 PM

I think it’s kind of neat that someone told NFL GMs you’re allowed to make trades. As long as someone other than Denver takes Allen in the draft I’ll be alright wth how it turns out. I think.

DropIt · 03-09-2018, 05:36 PM

I wonder what fueled GB to make that swap... Randall seemed to be a pretty decent starter

Erick Estrada · 03-09-2018, 05:43 PM

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So now do the Giants draft their future QB or take Chubb now. The mocks are sure to look a lot different noe

I have heard the rumblings that the Giants may not draft a QB which to me is incredibly silly. Manning at 37 is not Tom Brady and at this stage of his career is merely serviceable. Unless the plan is to go for broke next season and then have another disastrous season following why not draft the QB of future when you earned the 2nd overall pick? Much easier to get a top QB this high than in the early teens which is likely where Manning will take at best. Passing on a QB has to be hard to swallow for Giants fans as it's close to time they moved from Manning.

DropIt · 03-09-2018, 06:03 PM

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I have heard the rumblings that the Giants may not draft a QB which to me is incredibly silly. Manning at 37 is not Tom Brady and at this stage of his career is merely serviceable. Unless the plan is to go for broke next season and then have another disastrous season following why not draft the QB of future when you earned the 2nd overall pick? Much easier to get a top QB this high than in the early teens which is likely where Manning will take at best. Passing on a QB has to be hard to swallow for Giants fans as it's close to time they moved from Manning.

I've heard the Giants don't want to further ruffle feathers after the Eli benching. I agreenitnis a large mistake to not make their move to replace Eli, especially given the division they're in, Eli may never see the playoffs again.

The Giants are in a unique position to sell that pick for a ransom though, you could maybe move down and pick up a 1st rounder next year and maybe select one of the other QBs?

troutman · 03-09-2018, 08:34 PM

http://www.cleveland.com/pluto/index...rt_strong.html

Browns made a series of trades on Friday night, giving up multiple draft picks to acquire quarterback Tyrod Taylor, wide receiver Jarvis Landry and cornerback Damarious Randall.

The Browns have more than $100 million in salary cap space. All the salary cap space piled up by the front office of former Browns general manager Sashi Brown permitted the trades for Taylor and Landry to happen.

They kept all their first and second round picks too. I'm not sure getting Taylor guarantees they won't take a QB #1. He seems to be a game manager/placeholder QB. Browns fans seem split on taking Barkley #1. Some think the QB position is too important and RBs can break down early. I side with others that say there will be good QB options at #4.

transplant99 · 03-10-2018, 08:25 AM

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I wonder what fueled GB to make that swap... Randall seemed to be a pretty decent starter

He was a bit of a problem child for McCarthy, and one thing GB seems to be leaning to is high character players the last few seasons. Not convinced it's the way to stay competitive in the NFL, but it is what they have chosen to do.

I dont think Kizer is an NFL level QB, but obviously one or more of their personnel guys like something about him. Randall has some serious potential but also big downside if he doesn't get focused.

Also that swap of 4th and 5th rd picks is a sneaky good upgrade with both of those being the 1st choice in each round.

When I heard this yesterday i was just shaking my head as it seems ridiculous to me, but truth is that Hundley was god awful when he got his chance and now they have someone to compete for that spot and without wasting a draft pick in round 5 or whatever.

I figured for sure they made the deal to take a run at Sherman, which at this point, thankfully, they are not. Want nothing to do with him.

Luder · 03-10-2018, 06:01 PM

Cousins to the Vikings? Also reporting Sherman to the 49ers, not 100% sure in the reliability of the website.

http://www.prosportsdaily.com/Headli...ticleId=504187

Hockey · 03-10-2018, 06:10 PM

Confirmed Sherman to 49ers.

transplant99 · 03-10-2018, 06:41 PM

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Confirmed Sherman to 49ers.

Good...didn't want any part of him in GB. Just don't know how he will be when he does get back as he wasn't the fleetest of foot to begin with and an achilles tear can really hurt speed when trying to return.