Adam Fox signing watch thread. UPD: Announces he will return to Harvard next season
Adam Fox's 2nd year of college hockey is done after an OT loss in the ECAC semifinals. Now begins the watch to see if he signs.
There has been no credible information on whether he is leaning on signing or not.
The options:
1. Do not sign and go back to Harvard for at least another year. Flames draft rights expire on August 15, 2020.
2. Sign a 3 year NHL ELC that starts in the 17/18 season. First year of his ELC will be used up ("Burned") for this season. He will be eligible to play in NHL regular season games and NHL playoffs. He will not be eligible to join the AHL at all for the remainder of this season.
3. Sign a 3 year NHL ELC that starts in the 18/19 season. He won't be eligible to play in NHL regular season games or NHL playoff games. His contract won't start until 18/19, so all 3 years remain until July 1st. He can play AHL games in Stockton for the rest of the season by joining them on an ATO.
Don't expect a quick decision. He may have to think about it and is coming off a tough loss. There also isn't really any rush to sign him (e.g. Gaudreau) as there is still plenty of time to get him into pro games this season.
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#Flames news: D Adam Fox, one of Calgary's most intriguing prospects, will return to Harvard next season. "For right now, just staying and focusing on school and hockey, that’s my focus."
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Well if Fox signs it would help cushion the blow of losing a potetinal lottery pick. Would be a shame if Brodie, Hamonic, Stone, make Fox not wanna sign here. Fox could run a better PP than Brodie right now.
Whether Fox signs this off season or not, I hold the opinion that the defense should get a makeover in order to bring in either offensive firepower, early round draft picks, and/or blue chip offensive prospects.
Gio and Kulak I expect to stay. Hamilton I would like to have stay since he's been a productive offensive forward which are very valuable, but if he can bring in assets that help now and in the future, then it may be worth it to trade him also.
It's time to make use of our supposive great defensive prospects. Hopefully Fox will sign and we'll get to see him next season. But if not, I'm not worried yet, and hold faith that he'll sign next season or even the next one then. There's plenty of room for him.
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Don't know what he is taking for classes at Harvard but I have a hard time being convinced he is going to sign early. I'm fully expecting Fox to stay the full 4 years and will be amazed if he signs early. It's a Harvard freaking degree.
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Don't know what he is taking for classes at Harvard but I have a hard time being convinced he is going to sign early. I'm fully expecting Fox to stay the full 4 years and will be amazed if he signs early. It's a Harvard freaking degree.
Economics.
He is a really really smart kid.
I remember reading something along the lines of him learning the zulu language...just for fun. IIRC he also was taking latin at some point.
Edit: here is the article...he chose zulu as a language requirement.
Well if it’s Economics, he’ll understand that in order to maximize his lifetime earnings, he should sign now and if he really wants a degree, take it in the summers or when his NHL career is over.
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Harvard Hockey is his means to an end. Guess we will find out soon if the end is to play pro hockey for $$$ or use his hockey talents to help pay for his degree and future in the world of economics
Whether Fox signs this off season or not, I hold the opinion that the defense should get a makeover in order to bring in either offensive firepower, early round draft picks, and/or blue chip offensive prospects.
Gio and Kulak I expect to stay. Hamilton I would like to have stay since he's been a productive offensive forward which are very valuable, but if he can bring in assets that help now and in the future, then it may be worth it to trade him also.
It's time to make use of our supposive great defensive prospects. Hopefully Fox will sign and we'll get to see him next season. But if not, I'm not worried yet, and hold faith that he'll sign next season or even the next one then. There's plenty of room for him.
I share your opinion that the Flames are deep in defense, and trading for skilled forwards, preferably RW, should be a top priority. Also I believe that no one on defense should be exempt from being traded, except for Gio. I think a shakeup is warranted, and allowing room for upcoming players like Fox and others is paramount. However I fear, that with Tre so invested in his past moves, he may be reluctant to do what in my opinion is required to turn this team around.
If I’m him, there’s more reason not to sign than sign. Extra couple years of NHL money vs earning Harvard degree (better off financially long term probably by finishing). He could go in summers I guess.
And why hurry to join an organization that is jammed on the right D depth chart with a coach/GM that is obsessed with playing guys on their “right” sides.
I can’t recall, but when Johnny first signed and played to burn a year, didn’t that kind of hurt him in this latest contract? Lack of arb rights and not eligible for offer sheet or something?
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I can’t recall, but when Johnny first signed and played to burn a year, didn’t that kind of hurt him in this latest contract? Lack of arb rights and not eligible for offer sheet or something?
Yes. He had no arbitration rights and he couldn't sign an offer sheet which may have hurt his earning potential a bit. Arguably he might have been able to get slightly more because a potential offer sheet might have driven the Flames to close on a deal sooner than later. But still by burning a year he earned $6.75 mil in his 3rd pro year instead of $1.85 mil because of an ELC.
What really hurt Gaudreau more was timing. If he didn't burn his first year he could have had his contract negotiations after the McDavid extension and maybe Draisaitl was announced and using that as a benchmark.
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Harvard Hockey is his means to an end. Guess we will find out soon if the end is to play pro hockey for $$$ or use his hockey talents to help pay for his degree and future in the world of economics
The issue isn't whether he wants to be an NHL player or pick a different career (he's been very clear that his dream is to play in the NHL), it's whether he signs with us or waits.
He can attend all four years, complete his academics and be probably one of the most coveted UFA's in the league when he's done.
Yes. He had no arbitration rights and he couldn't sign an offer sheet which may have hurt his earning potential a bit. Arguably he might have been able to get slightly more because a potential offer sheet might have driven the Flames to close on a deal sooner than later. But still by burning a year he earned $6.75 mil in his 3rd pro year instead of $1.85 mil because of an ELC.
What really hurt Gaudreau more was timing. If he didn't burn his first year he could have had his contract negotiations after the McDavid extension and maybe Draisaitl was announced and using that as a benchmark.
Adam Fox signing watch thread. UPD: Announces he will return to Harvard next season
