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Old 07-04-2022, 04:32 PM   #541
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Thats really the heart of the matter.

Most people just enjoy stability, so back when these people were working as Flight Attendants or whatever, they were just keeping on doing what they're doing.

Then COVID happened forcing people into living differently, and similar to people collecting CERB or wanting to work more from home or whatever the case may be, they've been doing that for 2+ years, they appear to like it and want to continue doing it.

Do they now want to interrupt all of that to go back to being Flight Attendants? Probably not.

Its going to take a new crop of dreamers to fill these positions. So its not all about money or perks, you need people with the right temperament and mindset to fill these gaps. People who want to do it. Not just people who want a job.

A great example that I give people is Truck Drivers.

I can drive a Truck. I could go out and get a license and voila!

But in no way do I have the mentality, temperament or desire to be a Truck Driver. Its just not a job that I personally would be a good fit for. Just because I can drive a Truck does not make me a 'Truck Driver' regardless of the compensation.

Same with being a Flight Attendant.
I agree with this sentiment.

If solving the issue with short staffing in the airline industry were as simple as snapping our fingers and paying employees more, people would also be flocking in droves to become truckers (and truckers get paid very well!!).

It's about stability, lifestyle, work-life balance, etc.

So it's really a matter of airline companies adapting to society and being smart with their marketing strategy for attracting new employees, by better selling themselves to the right people who have that mindset/temperament/ability to adapt to (and enjoy) their work environment and lifestyle (ex: people who love to travel and be constantly on the go).
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Old 07-04-2022, 04:33 PM   #542
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The problem is big business knows if they yell and complain the government will allow for more low wage immigrants to fill the void, and big business can continue raking in the profits.

At the same time I think people aren't being fair if they think everything is coming down to wages. I know quite a few companies hiring right now who would pay way above market value and they can't even get job interviews.

We are paying the price of decades long stupidity of driving our kids away from trade schools and skilled labor.
I think there’s an element of classism at play. Fewer and fewer native-born Canadians are willing to do arduous, unpleasant, low-status work. It’s considered a step back. A lot of people would prefer to live with their parents at 28 and pick up a few shifts a week at Earls or Best Buy than do something gross like work at a care home, load luggage at the airport, or build concrete frames. And many Boomers are financially secure enough (and families today small enough) that they can shield adult children from resorting to unpleasant work.

I hope salaries for a lot of these low-status jobs do improve. But our labour shortages in some industries are becoming chronic (ie trucking), and rooted as much in changing social attitudes and demographics as in low pay.
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Old 07-04-2022, 04:52 PM   #543
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Captures what’s going on with Trudeau govt. to a tee as usual.
LOL. Five minutes in and Rex is already so full of nonsense it's not even worth continuing. Oh no, a world leader has criticized another country for the erosion of rights! No one has ever done that before! Maybe tomorrow Rex...
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Old 07-04-2022, 05:21 PM   #544
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LOL. Five minutes in and Rex is already so full of nonsense it's not even worth continuing. Oh no, a world leader has criticized another country for the erosion of rights! No one has ever done that before! Maybe tomorrow Rex...
Anyone posting a Rex Murphy and Jordan Peterson video unironically is not a serious person.
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Old 07-04-2022, 05:33 PM   #545
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Anyone posting a Rex Murphy and Jordan Peterson video unironically is not a serious person.
Seriously. When it comes to CP I'm basically an uneducated gun-toting redneck and even I know that that's just total crap

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Old 07-04-2022, 05:35 PM   #546
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Anyone posting a Rex Murphy and Jordan Peterson video unironically is not a serious person.
So when are you organizing a televised Debate even between Rex, Jordan and that psychotic Professor from the University of Ottawa?

That would be some 'Must See TV.'

Maybe get some Convoy reps on there too? The sky is the limit!
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Old 07-04-2022, 05:40 PM   #547
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Old 07-04-2022, 08:06 PM   #548
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I don't care if its something I agree with or something I don't - but posting some minutes long youtube video with no detailed summary of what it is or why I should watch it should be a 24 hour ban or public flogging - poster can choose.
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Old 07-04-2022, 08:15 PM   #549
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I don't care if its something I agree with or something I don't - but posting some minutes long youtube video with no detailed summary of what it is or why I should watch it should be a 24 hour ban or public flogging - poster can choose.
So much yes,

Also if you post a video without comment and people respond as if you believe everything in the video and what the source of the video stands for that is your own fault for not posting context.
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I watched the first minute and realized Rex is real old. I had respect for old men until I became one.
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Old 07-05-2022, 05:11 PM   #551
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Who is she? Sorry...that sounds really devoid of reality.

Government employees need to start feeling the pinch of some of these significant cost increases.
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Old 07-05-2022, 05:30 PM   #553
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I’m not sure how much, if any, of the gas price increases are directly impacted by climate change. I assumed it had to do more with COVID-19 and geopolitical policies.

But, if we are still on oil when substantial damage does occur from climate change, the pinch will be real. And a lot worse. This will feel like nothing.
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Old 07-05-2022, 05:38 PM   #554
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I’m not sure how much, if any, of the gas price increases are directly impacted by climate change. I assumed it had to do more with COVID-19 and geopolitical policies.

But, if we are still on oil when substantial damage does occur from climate change, the pinch will be real. And a lot worse. This will feel like nothing.
Unless you are under 20 years old, luckily by that time we will all be dead.
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Old 07-05-2022, 05:41 PM   #555
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Who is she? Sorry...that sounds really devoid of reality.

Government employees need to start feeling the pinch of some of these significant cost increases.
Not sure if serious... DPM = Deputy Prime Minister, Chrystia Freeland. She's also not wrong that shippers with electric trucks don't care so much about gas prices.
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How many shippers in Canada are running fleets of EV’s?
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Not sure if serious... DPM = Deputy Prime Minister, Chrystia Freeland. She's also not wrong that shippers with electric trucks don't care so much about gas prices.
She's probably not wrong, but good golly does she come across as patronizing and tone-deaf... (Liberal Party in a nutshell, really...)
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She's probably not wrong, but good golly does she come across as patronizing and tone-deaf... (Liberal Party in a nutshell, really...)
No disagreement there, but it's not as outrageous as Yoho thinks it is.
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Patrick Brown kicked out of Cons race. Down to two horses now.
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Patrick Brown kicked out of Cons race. Down to two horses now.
Charest vs. Polliviere?
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