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Old 10-04-2019, 02:44 AM   #141
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lol what a purist.

This line of thinking is silly. An enthusiast enjoys the driving dynamics first and foremost, obviously, but who doesn't like spending their time in a place that is pleasant to be in? I've never seen an automotive enthusiast or journalist not care about interiors, and tech is a part of that.

I mean, given the choice between two similarly priced cars that drive exactly the same - one with a beautiful interior and awesome infotainment and one with cheap plastics, laggy infotainment, and grossly outdated tech - what kind of idiot would go for the lesser car? Because that's the decision people considering, say, an Infiniti and a Mercedes face.
The new MBUX would definitely sway me towards buying one of their cars. Even the A series has it and the hatch is decent looking.
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Old 10-04-2019, 09:24 AM   #142
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The new MBUX would definitely sway me towards buying one of their cars. Even the A series has it and the hatch is decent looking.
Yeah, I love the new MBUX. It basically embarrasses every other automaker.
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Old 12-06-2019, 02:50 PM   #143
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Here's something crazy. I've been digging the Nissan Cube lately. Going to keep my eye out for a manual transmission one in mint condition for my daughter. She turns 14 in a few months and I'm thinking it would be a cool car to learn to drive on and eventually take over. Plus it would be fun for overnight camping since I think all of the seats (including front) fold down to create just a big bed.
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Old 12-06-2019, 03:02 PM   #144
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Perhaps also try a Kia Soul if you're going down that road. It's one of those quirky cars that a lot of car reviewers seem to like when they drive one.
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Old 12-06-2019, 03:06 PM   #145
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Perhaps also try a Kia Soul if you're going down that road. It's one of those quirky cars that a lot of car reviewers seem to like when they drive one.
Yeah, that is a neat option, too. I see it has a manual transmission, as well.
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Old 12-06-2019, 03:09 PM   #146
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Or the Honda Element. Its seats fold completely flat. Also some manual transmissions out there as well. And some with AWD.


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All this talk of the 240Z has made me really sad.

Is there anything on the market today that has a small profile, cool styling, a little pep and a suspension that doesn't feel like your off roading, for under 40K new? I can't think of one.

To get a silhouette that doesn't look like crap, you have to throw down some serious coin. And seeing that little bumper on a picture of an 80s 240Z just makes me happy.

A decision was made somewhere, that if you want a nice car without bells and whistles, but with good bones, you can just take a walk.
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Old 12-06-2019, 04:00 PM   #148
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Toyota 86 is the only one I can think of at that price point. It's a bit underpowered compared to modern sports cars, but it ticks all the other boxes.
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The 86 is pretty much the 90s Japanese car that everyone supposedly pines for. Yes, it's not the fastest thing on earth (neither were those 90s cars), but it ticks pretty much every enthusiast box, at a reasonable price.

Apart from maybe the Fiata twins, I'm not sure there's anything quite as good in terms of a pure driving experience (at a reasonable price that is).
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Old 12-06-2019, 04:22 PM   #150
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Or the Honda Element. Its seats fold completely flat. Also some manual transmissions out there as well. And some with AWD.

Oh yeah, good thought. The ones without that plastic body cladding even look pretty good.
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All this talk of the 240Z has made me really sad.

Is there anything on the market today that has a small profile, cool styling, a little pep and a suspension that doesn't feel like your off roading, for under 40K new? I can't think of one.

To get a silhouette that doesn't look like crap, you have to throw down some serious coin. And seeing that little bumper on a picture of an 80s 240Z just makes me happy.

A decision was made somewhere, that if you want a nice car without bells and whistles, but with good bones, you can just take a walk.
The answer is always Miata.
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All this talk of the 240Z has made me really sad.

Is there anything on the market today that has a small profile, cool styling, a little pep and a suspension that doesn't feel like your off roading, for under 40K new? I can't think of one.

To get a silhouette that doesn't look like crap, you have to throw down some serious coin. And seeing that little bumper on a picture of an 80s 240Z just makes me happy.

A decision was made somewhere, that if you want a nice car without bells and whistles, but with good bones, you can just take a walk.
Would a Subaru BRZ qualify?
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Here's something crazy. I've been digging the Nissan Cube lately. Going to keep my eye out for a manual transmission one in mint condition for my daughter. She turns 14 in a few months and I'm thinking it would be a cool car to learn to drive on and eventually take over. Plus it would be fun for overnight camping since I think all of the seats (including front) fold down to create just a big bed.
Now that's a progressive Dad, buying your daughter a bed on wheels
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Now that's a progressive Dad, buying your daughter a bed on wheels
I think Sliver would make a really good Grandfather too!
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