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Old 07-15-2015, 11:05 AM   #1621
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Old 07-15-2015, 11:28 AM   #1622
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I like Marvel movies, but damn are they ever quick to 'reboot'. so far since they have started producing these things:
Spider-Man - (twice!)
Hulk - (kind of twice?)
Xmen- reboot, but now the reboot ties into the originals
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Like cmon, there are so many awesome movies that could be done, Guardians of the Galaxy was a great surprise but I wanna see Carnage, Gambit (properly) Venom (also properly), Galactus...
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Old 07-15-2015, 11:33 AM   #1623
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I know it'll never happen, but I just want to see Wolverine in the Avengers universe.
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Old 07-15-2015, 11:35 AM   #1624
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I like Marvel movies, but damn are they ever quick to 'reboot'. so far since they have started producing these things:
Spider-Man - (twice!)
Hulk - (kind of twice?)
Xmen- reboot, but now the reboot ties into the originals
Fantastic four
Punisher

Like cmon, there are so many awesome movies that could be done, Guardians of the Galaxy was a great surprise but I wanna see Carnage, Gambit (properly) Venom (also properly), Galactus...
We're getting a Channing Tatum Gambit. I kind of have faith in him pulling that one off actually. Even though I was perfectly happy with Wolverine Origins Gambit too. Only real bright spot in that disaster of a movie.

They really do need to do a good job with Venom and Carnage but those are two super villains that'll be tough to get right on film I think.

Galactus? Let's get silver surfer done properly first before that.
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Old 07-15-2015, 01:03 PM   #1625
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I like Marvel movies, but damn are they ever quick to 'reboot'. so far since they have started producing these things:
Spider-Man - (twice!)
Hulk - (kind of twice?)
Xmen- reboot, but now the reboot ties into the originals
Fantastic four
Punisher

Like cmon, there are so many awesome movies that could be done, Guardians of the Galaxy was a great surprise but I wanna see Carnage, Gambit (properly) Venom (also properly), Galactus...
I believe as far as X-Men and Spider-Man go they have a 'use it or lose it' contract for the characters rights. If they don't use the characters within X amount of years, they default back to Marvel. That is what happened with Punisher.

So they will continue to reboot it and milk the cash cow until it runs dry.

Here is a popular image showing the film rights spoilered for size. Now Sony has Spider-Man linked with Marvel now on a tentative basis.

Spoiler!
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Old 07-15-2015, 01:06 PM   #1626
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Here is a popular image showing the film rights spoilered for size. Now Sony has Spider-Man linked with Marvel now on a tentative basis.

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Here's the updated version:

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Old 07-15-2015, 01:26 PM   #1627
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I believe as far as X-Men and Spider-Man go they have a 'use it or lose it' contract for the characters rights. If they don't use the characters within X amount of years, they default back to Marvel. That is what happened with Punisher.

So they will continue to reboot it and milk the cash cow until it runs dry.

Here is a popular image showing the film rights spoilered for size. Now Sony has Spider-Man linked with Marvel now on a tentative basis.

Spoiler!
It's also not Marvel doing the rebooting. Sony rebooted Spiderman and now that marvel is using him they want a different version to fit into their universe, understandably.

Hulk has only been rebooted once when Marvel made Incredible Hulk. That movie is still canon in their universe, just with a different actor.

None of the movies mention by Jbo were made by Marvel (say for the Incredible Hulk), they are not the ones rebooting them over and over again.

Honestly, as much as we'd all like to see Wolverine in the Avengers, I like what Fox has been doing with XMen, and it's so expansive on it's own, I'm cool with them keeping it if they keep doing things like DOFP.
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Old 07-15-2015, 07:44 PM   #1628
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How is that Scarlett Witch and Quick Silver are owned by both?
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Old 07-15-2015, 08:00 PM   #1629
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How is that Scarlett Witch and Quick Silver are owned by both?

They're (were?) mutants but they are also
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They're (were?) mutants but they are also
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So is Wolverine and like half the X-Men at one point or another
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Old 07-15-2015, 10:15 PM   #1631
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So is Wolverine and like half the X-Men at one point or another

Fair point. I just know for whatever reason Marvel and Fox are sharing them. And Marvel wasn't allowed to say the word mutant, or imply Magneto's parentage. So I'm pretty sure Marvel even retconned (again) it in the comics too.
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Old 07-16-2015, 01:04 AM   #1632
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I'm pretty meh on that suicide squad trailer.
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Off topic- I have a good friend who's daughter committed suicide and she is petitioning for the movie's name to be changed as she finds it offensive and hurtful.
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Off topic- I have a good friend who's daughter committed suicide and she is petitioning for the movie's name to be changed as she finds it offensive and hurtful.
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I'm pretty meh on that suicide squad trailer.
Agreed. I'll see it but, meh. It doesn't give me the same feeling that even the Ant-Man trailer does, and I don't give a crap about Ant-Man.

As said, it was only a few lines, but I was kind of hoping Leto would bring a more high-pitched, cartoony version of Joker. More Hamill than Ledger.
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Old 07-16-2015, 11:06 AM   #1637
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Will Smith has a high probability of ruining Suicide Squad. Even his lines in the trailer were cringe worthy.
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Fair point. I just know for whatever reason Marvel and Fox are sharing them. And Marvel wasn't allowed to say the word mutant, or imply Magneto's parentage. So I'm pretty sure Marvel even retconned (again) it in the comics too.
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Will Smith has a high probability of ruining Suicide Squad. Even his lines in the trailer were cringe worthy.
if he plays Will Smith I think so, if he acts he could be good but he hasnt seemed to want to do that
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Off topic- I have a good friend who's daughter committed suicide and she is petitioning for the movie's name to be changed as she finds it offensive and hurtful.
Ridiculous... Is that what this country is becoming?
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