02-15-2019, 10:27 AM
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Fearmongerer
Join Date: Oct 2001
Location: Wondering when # became hashtag and not a number sign.
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Ft. Mac minor hockey team forfeits season...because adults suck
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Last month, a video uploaded to Snapchat showed a boy from the Fort McMurray Midget “A” Junior Oil Barons banging a hockey stick against the lid of a garbage can like a drum. As music from the Indigenous electronic group A Tribe Called Red plays, two other players can be seen dancing while the rest of the team shouts and laughs.
The locker room incident went viral after it was uploaded to Facebook. The social media backlash that followed saw commenters accusing the boys of mocking Indigenous culture. Many comments included hopes the boys would die in a traffic accident, specifically mentioning the Humboldt Broncos’ team bus crash.
As it turned out, the boys involved were Indigenous, with at least one player a member of the Fort McKay Métis.
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Just unreal.
https://calgarysun.com/news/local-ne...c-963a0f808da7
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02-15-2019, 10:30 AM
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#2
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Aug 2007
Location: Ontario
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I really hoped I was not going to dislike 2019 as much as I did 2018, but that hope just dwindled quite a bit.
Preventing anonymous posting to social media seems to be all that would prevent disgusting stories like this...
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02-15-2019, 10:30 AM
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#3
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Norm!
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The SJW creedo - "I am really upset about a video that I have no understanding or context knowlege, and my feelings are important and people need to listen to me as I rage about it from behind a anonymous mask"
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02-15-2019, 10:31 AM
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#4
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Dec 2003
Location: Sector 7-G
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Originally Posted by transplant99
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One of many reasons why social media is garbage. It gives any person the power to say horrible things behind a screen.
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02-15-2019, 10:35 AM
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#6
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First Line Centre
Join Date: Aug 2004
Location: Fort McMurray, AB
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So the biggest issue as I read it is that the hockey association posted an apology on the assumption that people were going to be offended, and that's what offended the other side?
Don't get me wrong, the association jumped the gun and was clearly in the wrong, but I guess that's what you get these days. Everything offends somebody. Sad.
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02-15-2019, 10:55 AM
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In the Sin Bin
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Originally Posted by schteve_d
So the biggest issue as I read it is that the hockey association posted an apology on the assumption that people were going to be offended, and that's what offended the other side?
Don't get me wrong, the association jumped the gun and was clearly in the wrong, but I guess that's what you get these days. Everything offends somebody. Sad.
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The issue is that the FMMHA posted an apology that threw the team under the bus without having the slightest clue what the facts were. Which only confirmed for the easily offended that there was something to be offended about. That, in turn, ramped up the vitriol and created an unsafe situation for the players.
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02-15-2019, 11:18 AM
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Crash and Bang Winger
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Just another reason to be thankful that social media wasn't around when I was a kid.
Keyboard warriors strike again
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02-15-2019, 11:58 AM
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#9
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Jul 2009
Location: Red Deer
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Originally Posted by Split98
I really hoped I was not going to dislike 2019 as much as I did 2018, but that hope just dwindled quite a bit.
Preventing anonymous posting to social media seems to be all that would prevent disgusting stories like this...
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This seems so pie in the sky, but man would I love to see something like this.
Very real and personal accountability for users across all platforms.
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02-15-2019, 12:04 PM
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#10
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Dec 2003
Location: Sector 7-G
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So a bunch of 15 year olds getting excited for a game while embracing a culture of other teammates is something someone decided to get outraged about.
Now they ruined their season, probably the kids confidence in celebrating their heritage as well.
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02-15-2019, 12:27 PM
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#11
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Franchise Player
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Horrible.
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02-15-2019, 01:18 PM
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#12
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In the Sin Bin
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Originally Posted by Yamer
This seems so pie in the sky, but man would I love to see something like this.
Very real and personal accountability for users across all platforms.
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Quite the opposite. Just makes it far easier for harassers and stalkers to target people IRL.
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02-15-2019, 01:22 PM
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#13
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Lifetime Suspension
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This is why social media ultimately failed at what it was trying to accomplish originally - making people feel more connected.
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02-15-2019, 02:21 PM
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#14
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Lifetime Suspension
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Never apologize to those maggots, it lets them know it's time to go in for the kill.
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02-15-2019, 02:35 PM
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Aug 2007
Location: Ontario
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Originally Posted by Yamer
This seems so pie in the sky, but man would I love to see something like this.
Very real and personal accountability for users across all platforms.
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I think it just takes a platform wanting to change the conversation happening amongst it's users, and a willingness to moderate it to fix that. I think a platform like that would do well to draw in people like myself that are sick and tired of the hate and vitriol that pops up everywhere.
I hope we're not far off, as the tone of every platform is pretty gross and I'm sure they're not thrilled either (besides the tons of money millions of anonymous people bring them)
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Originally Posted by Resolute 14
Quite the opposite. Just makes it far easier for harassers and stalkers to target people IRL.
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I would hope that a better way to think of social media would make it more difficult for your average user to track people down as well.
Today's social media blasts all our private info to the world while at the same time allowing people to anonymously say the worst things imaginable. Where someone can anonymously find out where you live, work, and socialize... but also can say things without a trace that would end up in a lawsuit, it's broken.
I could see a verified account, focused on privacy being a solution here. When we get to the point that 'User-X' can be charged with harassment, I think we'll see a much different world. But it doesn't mean that everyone has access to 'User-X's' info - just info that's available and verified if something needs to be done with it.
I can dream...
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02-15-2019, 02:58 PM
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#16
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Jul 2009
Location: Red Deer
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Originally Posted by Resolute 14
Quite the opposite. Just makes it far easier for harassers and stalkers to target people IRL.
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From the top of the heap to the bottom of the pit, the more people using social media in a restrained and thoughtful way the better.
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"It's a great day for hockey."
-'Badger' Bob Johnson (1931-1991)
"I see as much misery out of them moving to justify theirselves as them that set out to do harm."
-Dr. Amos "Doc" Cochran
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02-15-2019, 03:08 PM
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Franchise Player
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The social media backlash that followed saw commenters accusing the boys of mocking Indigenous culture. Many comments included hopes the boys would die in a traffic accident, specifically mentioning the Humboldt Broncos’ team bus crash.
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The most screwed up thing about this is the people doing the shaming felt like really good people when they did it. Defenders of the oppressed. Heroes.
When did we decide it was okay to hate in the name of compassion?
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If this day gets you riled up, you obviously aren't numb to the disappointment yet to be a real fan.
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02-15-2019, 04:09 PM
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#18
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First Line Centre
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Originally Posted by CliffFletcher
The most screwed up thing about this is the people doing the shaming felt like really good people when they did it. Defenders of the oppressed. Heroes.
When did we decide it was okay to hate in the name of compassion?
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Didn't you know it's alright to punch Nazi's.
And by Nazi's, I mean anyone that disagrees with me.
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02-15-2019, 04:17 PM
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#1 Goaltender
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Obvious absurdity of the whole thing aside, when did doing anything related to another culture become a terrible thing? I’m not an electronic fan, but I’ve rocked out pretty hard to Bread and Butter before. I’ve also danced a tango, rapped some lines, tried to learn a raga, and enjoy eastern European folk music.
The world really and truly is full of absolute idiots.
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02-15-2019, 05:08 PM
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Franchise Player
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Originally Posted by Otto-matic
So a bunch of 15 year olds getting excited for a game while embracing a culture of other teammates is something someone decided to get outraged about.
Now they ruined their season, probably the kids confidence in celebrating their heritage as well.
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Not saying this is the case, but I've met a lot of natives who denigrate, mock and make racially charged comments about their own people.
In a place like northern rural Alberta where prejudice against natives is very much out in the open and widespread this might be a coping mechanism for natives to try and fit into the dominant culture.
Or it could just be some kids having fun.
Last edited by Oil Stain; 02-15-2019 at 05:10 PM.
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