05-19-2022, 11:05 AM
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#81
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In Your MCP
Join Date: Apr 2004
Location: Watching Hot Dog Hans
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Originally Posted by Manhattanboy
Am hearing as well that her running federally is not out of the question.
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Unless something has changed in the last month, I would doubt it.
Kinda sucks. She's not only a great politician but also a really, really cool person . She'd mop the floor with these candidates.
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05-19-2022, 11:29 AM
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#82
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Posted the 6 millionth post!
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https://twitter.com/user/status/1527097609252372480
Ravaged by the NDP? Because of Kenney less people will leave the province?
The whole political "Kenney=savior" dogma really does no good for getting progressives onboard with her messaging.
Why can't conservatives just keep their virtue signaling in check and say "best of luck?"
Cripes almighty.
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05-19-2022, 11:31 AM
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#83
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Franchise Player
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Come on Rona, how embarrassing. Read your history.
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05-19-2022, 11:45 AM
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#84
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Rona Ambrose would not be a savior. lol She would lose to Blackface as well.
and eff you Kenney. I found out he quit when I was at the Science Centre last night. YAY Science!
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05-19-2022, 12:03 PM
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#85
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Scoring Winger
Join Date: Dec 2008
Location: Calgary
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Originally Posted by Krovikan
He tried ballot box stuffing and only got 51%, so back to the tried and true.
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Now you sound like Brian Jean, lol.
The UCP is done for this next election cycle. Many lifelong conservative voters, like myself, will not be voting for them going forward. Electing a far right winger like Brian Jean as leader will be the final nail in the coffin for many others. NDP majority coming up
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05-19-2022, 12:03 PM
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#86
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Join Date: Feb 2011
Location: Somewhere down the crazy river.
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Originally Posted by Erick Estrada
Do you only follow provincial politics? Trudeau has brought up "blah blah Harper, blah blah, Harper" for multiple terms after Harper was out for crying out loud.
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If you want to classify Trudeau as being partisan as well, that’s fine but it doesn’t change what anyone is saying about Kenney’s inability to comment on anything without including a jab at some political foe.
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05-19-2022, 12:10 PM
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#87
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Powerplay Quarterback
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Originally Posted by Dentoman
Now you sound like Brian Jean, lol.
The UCP is done for this next election cycle. Many lifelong conservative voters, like myself, will not be voting for them going forward. Electing a far right winger like Brian Jean as leader will be the final nail in the coffin for many others. NDP majority coming up
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Huh? Reports are, the UCP sold memberships to people who didn't buy them, then cast votes for them, that is modern ballot stuffing.
As for NDP v UCP which I've avoided commenting on in this thread. I voted for the NDP twice because their platform was better and more responsible. Plus I would never vote for a social conservative like Kenny, Jean, etc.
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05-19-2022, 12:10 PM
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#88
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Join Date: Mar 2002
Location: Auckland, NZ
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"Economically ravaged by the NDP"
Pretty sure the 2015 global economic crash and the recession, combined with no diversification plan and an outstanding amount of economic scandals from the Alberta PCs, can be looked at first and foremost...
That's like getting mad at a leaky faucet in the bathroom when your house is being washed away by a flood.
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05-19-2022, 12:23 PM
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#89
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Join Date: Feb 2011
Location: Somewhere down the crazy river.
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Originally Posted by Muta
"Economically ravaged by the NDP"
Pretty sure the 2015 global economic crash and the recession, combined with no diversification plan and an outstanding amount of economic scandals from the Alberta PCs, can be looked at first and foremost...
That's like getting mad at a leaky faucet in the bathroom when your house is being washed away by a flood.
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I can only guess that Rona Ambrose and Christy Clark prepared their statements just after Kenney won and didn’t bother to modify them.
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05-19-2022, 12:38 PM
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#90
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Dec 2006
Location: Calgary, Alberta
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Originally Posted by Dentoman
The UCP is done for this next election cycle. Many lifelong conservative voters, like myself, will not be voting for them going forward. Electing a far right winger like Brian Jean as leader will be the final nail in the coffin for many others. NDP majority coming up
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The death of the "moderate conservatives" is a big loss for our political picture and the province/country as a whole. It only makes things more polarized and I don't see the upside in that at all.
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05-19-2022, 12:41 PM
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#91
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Originally Posted by Slava
The death of the "moderate conservatives" is a big loss for our political picture and the province/country as a whole. It only makes things more polarized and I don't see the upside in that at all.
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That's what happens when the party decides the only way to win is to unite with the far right. Sure, it eventually worked for the Harper gang, but that was a far right takeover of moderate Conservatives. If a far right leader grabs the UCP, it will be the same thing here. Compromising principles to secure a "win" is short sighted and foolish.
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05-19-2022, 12:42 PM
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#92
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Backup Goalie
Join Date: Sep 2009
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The political landscape in Alberta has become mind boggling in many ways. Kenney has been forced out by the far right faction in the UCP - all of the current contenders to replace him (Jean, Smith, etc) are aligned with the trucker convoy anti-vaxxer crowd (do a Google search for their comments when it was happening). I have supported conservative parties all my life really, but could never get behind that camp. The idea of voting NDP is personally nauseating. Alberta seems ripe for the rise of a centre, right-leaning party, but there doesn't seem to be that option.
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05-19-2022, 12:44 PM
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#93
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I was just listening to a panel on CBC and one of the guests said that the reason the results were so delayed was because Bumbles didn't have a resignation speech prepared. Maybe that's why the first few sentences sounded like a victory speech?
But how incompetent are you that you have a month, you must know it is going to be close, and don't have contingencies prepared and decisions made for every percent range of the vote? No wonder he sucks so bad as a leader, has a month to prepare and can't even do his home work.
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05-19-2022, 12:46 PM
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#94
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Franchise Player
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Originally Posted by Slava
The death of the "moderate conservatives" is a big loss for our political picture and the province/country as a whole. It only makes things more polarized and I don't see the upside in that at all.
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I expect we'll likely see the same death for the Liberals at some point in Canada. It is already happening in the US with the Democrats and the splintering between the center or moderates and the progressive, socialist Democrats. I don't expect the divide in Canada to be quite as severe but it will happen. It basically comes down to what can the NDP do in terms of mounting a campaign and how many Liberal voters can they steal.
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05-19-2022, 12:51 PM
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#95
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Dec 2006
Location: Calgary, Alberta
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Originally Posted by calgarygeologist
I expect we'll likely see the same death for the Liberals at some point in Canada. It is already happening in the US with the Democrats and the splintering between the center or moderates and the progressive, socialist Democrats. I don't expect the divide in Canada to be quite as severe but it will happen. It basically comes down to what can the NDP do in terms of mounting a campaign and how many Liberal voters can they steal.
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Yeah, I agree. I think that's why the Liberals are pushing to the left and trying to steal ground from the NDP there. Provincially, it's just a vast wilderness between ideologues on both sides.
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05-19-2022, 01:10 PM
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#96
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Such a pretty girl!
Join Date: Jan 2004
Location: Calgary
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Originally Posted by GGG
The worst part of this whole thing is he is getting turfed for ducking up the Covid response by being too strict. Out of all the things he did that was the only thing he did okay.
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Originally Posted by Ferarri
Small victory tonight, but voters need to hold these clowns responsible come election time. This wasn’t just a one man show but rather a party of incompetent morons making bad decisions. Hope this doesn’t fool people that someone the UCP will change its ways.
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This so much. How quickly we forget that the people that voted him out think Kenney was too far left. In fact, leaked audio from phone calls were calling him a Liberal. This is the party that we are left with, and who will be voting in a new leader.
My only hope is they fracture so much that they split, but there is no way we are getting a better leader out of this #### party the way it is, when it runs so deep. People will also forget, and think the new leader deserves a chance, because the alternate is the evil evil NDP that "ruined" this province.
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05-19-2022, 01:51 PM
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#97
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Originally Posted by Fuzz
I was just listening to a panel on CBC and one of the guests said that the reason the results were so delayed was because Bumbles didn't have a resignation speech prepared. Maybe that's why the first few sentences sounded like a victory speech?
But how incompetent are you that you have a month, you must know it is going to be close, and don't have contingencies prepared and decisions made for every percent range of the vote? No wonder he sucks so bad as a leader, has a month to prepare and can't even do his home work.
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It's possible he had every intention of staying but was 'encouraged' to resign by the party when they saw the results of the vote?
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05-19-2022, 03:14 PM
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#98
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Draft Pick
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He's probably on the phone to Alison Redford asking how to write an official resignation speech
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05-19-2022, 05:33 PM
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#99
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Franchise Player
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So it sounds like Kenney wants to/will stay on as leader and Premier until the new leadership vote has been completed. What the hell is going on here?
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05-19-2022, 05:35 PM
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#100
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First Line Centre
Join Date: Mar 2007
Location: Calgary
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Originally Posted by calgarygeologist
So it sounds like Kenney wants to/will stay on as leader and Premier until the new leadership vote has been completed. What the hell is going on here?
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Lends credence to the rumours that he intends to run for leader again. He'll stay on and go through a leadership race to try and prove that he is still the first choice for leader.
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