09-13-2022, 11:01 PM
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#2
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Sep 2015
Location: Paradise
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Years 1-3 will be fine. 4-5 an overpayment. 6-7 probably buyout territory. But this team is in win now mode so just go with it.
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09-13-2022, 11:09 PM
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#3
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#1 Goaltender
Join Date: Mar 2020
Location: Dallas
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Yes , age is the reason why he didn’t get as big a contract as he thinks he deserves
Unless he is special, 3 good years is probably what he has left
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09-13-2022, 11:15 PM
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#4
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First Line Centre
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Has this not been discussed ad-nauseam in several other threads? Flames and in win now and Kadri is a winner. Worry about the later years in the later years.
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09-13-2022, 11:21 PM
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#5
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Scoring Winger
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Burning Beard
Has this not been discussed ad-nauseam in several other threads? Flames and in win now and Kadri is a winner. Worry about the later years in the later years.
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This was my exact thought when I opened this thread. It's been discussed at length on so many threads already.
The guy hasn't even played a game in our jersey yet. Who cares about his contract, we aren't the ones paying it.
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09-13-2022, 11:21 PM
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#6
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Lifetime Suspension
Join Date: Jan 2014
Location: victoria
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Nope
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09-13-2022, 11:25 PM
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#7
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Franchise Player
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OMG I never thought of that!
truth be told he skates better than 24 year old Tkachuk anyway
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09-14-2022, 12:07 AM
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#8
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Acerbic Cyberbully
Join Date: Aug 2003
Location: back in Chilliwack
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I think 60–70 pts for Kadri on this roster is realistic. And, no, I do not think his age is of any concern. It certainly will become one in a few years, but what is the sense in worrying about that now?
I know you didn't ask, but I am going to give it to you anyways. Here is my projections for Flames forwards in 2022–23:
Huberdeau [90–95 pts] · Lindholm [70–80 pts] · *RW [50–60 pts]
*LW [30–40 pts] · Kadri [60–70 pts] · Mangiapane [50–60 pts]
*LW [30–40 pts] · Backlund [35–45 pts] · Coleman [35–45 pts]
Lucic [15–20 pts] · Rooney [15–20 pts] · Lewis [10–20 pts]
* Tyler Toffoli, Dylan Dube, and Pelletier or Ruzicka.
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09-14-2022, 02:05 AM
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#9
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Crash and Bang Winger
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Flaming Horse
He will be 32 in October and coming off a long season. He had a career year but before this year his best year was 61pts and very sporadic in his production. He had 87pts last year on a stacked avs team. I know he played mostly on their second line and not with McKinnon. What type of numbers do you guys think he can get. I am sure the intangibles will be there but I am very curious as to what type of numbers he can put up. What kind of numbers do you guys think he can put up over the next couple of years. He will be making 7 mil a year so you hope he can produce at a high level. The big part will be his ability to limit or shutdown and make things miserable for a guy like mcdufus in greaser land.
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What's his injury history like? Does he always have niggles or has he been pretty durable?
Don't forget the cap is going up over the next few years as well and although the later years will be an overpayment, he wouldn't look out of place centering lower down the line up too.
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09-14-2022, 04:15 AM
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#10
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Jun 2009
Location: Thunder Bay Ontario
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Don't worry. He vetoed a trade here in the past, he'll never sign here...oh, he already signed. Well there's huge character issues with him to worry about....oh ya, there really aren't. Well he's too expensive...wait, the cap will go up and it won't be that bad. His play will decline for sure...oh he's actually played well as he's aged and doesn't play a style that will wear him down as fast...well I'm sure there's something to worry about!
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09-14-2022, 05:04 AM
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#11
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Powerplay Quarterback
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Cross your fingers and hope to God that he ages like Pavelski.
I never wanted him signed due to the term but it is what it is. I am sure he is going to be good for at least the next two seasons.
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09-14-2022, 05:45 AM
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#12
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Crash and Bang Winger
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Flames1217
Cross your fingers and hope to God that he ages like Pavelski.
I never wanted him signed due to the term but it is what it is. I am sure he is going to be good for at least the next two seasons.
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Micheal Backlund IS 33 and he was our best player in last years playoffs even against Edmonton. It isn't a light switch with an on/off at a certain age. Even Milan who's lost a lot in his old age is still an asset.
I'll take a pass on this thread in the future.
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09-14-2022, 07:04 AM
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#13
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Self Imposed Retirement
Join Date: Dec 2020
Location: Calgary
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I think Kadri still has a high fitness level, for a 32 year old athlete I’d say he’s a bit younger than his actual age. I think the Flames will easily get good value from Kadri and this contract.
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09-14-2022, 07:30 AM
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#14
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Powerplay Quarterback
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Quote:
Originally Posted by GS Skier
Micheal Backlund IS 33 and he was our best player in last years playoffs even against Edmonton. It isn't a light switch with an on/off at a certain age. Even Milan who's lost a lot in his old age is still an asset.
I'll take a pass on this thread in the future.
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Backlund also isn't signed at 7 million until he is 39.
The next two years are not what you worry about, it's the remaining 5 after that.
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09-14-2022, 07:38 AM
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#15
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Franchise Player
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COVID wave 17 will wipe out the 2026-2028 seasons anyways so we won't have to worry about it
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09-14-2022, 08:01 AM
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Oct 2005
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I think Kadri will be fine . That's a guy playing with a high level of pride and he'll know when it's time to hangem up me thinks.
I bet he has another career year. Great if he gets major points but I'd be willing to bet he'd do anything to win again and being a better 200 ft player will make me value him more. I just love the edge he plays with.....kind of reminds me of Cammalleri....both when needed to snarl and be nasty can do that and score.
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09-14-2022, 08:18 AM
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#17
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Franchise Player
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Giordano signed a 6-year deal going into his 33 YO season. Fans had the exact same worries and complaints. He won the Norris in year 3 of that contract. And then he was claimed by Seattle in year 6. The Flames had zero difficult years from it. And at least 3 years where he was a bargain.
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09-14-2022, 08:21 AM
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#18
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Franchise Player
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Flames currently have a 5.25M 4th liner...some of you worry too much. Cap will be high in 5-7 years, 7M won't be a huge salary. Besides so many things can happen between now and then
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09-14-2022, 08:23 AM
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Franchise Player
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thank goodness this discussion was started. it was the elephant in the room and i for one am stunned it has not come up in the thread where we discuss signing kadri
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09-14-2022, 08:30 AM
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#20
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Ate 100 Treadmills
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The last half of this contract will be awful. The flames window to win will likely close in 4ish years. So having lots of cap tied to during a rebuild isn't so bad
Enjoy the next 3-4 years and hope management makes the last big moves needed to win the Cup.
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