Alberta Election Thread - Election Day April 16 2019

[RubberDuck]

Originally Posted by Ozy_Flame

On Day 1 you're claiming perception has turned into reality for a pragmatic economic rebound?

Anecdotal as it is, in my company alone, 11 multi million dollar contracts were on hold until after the election. 2 days later, 9 of them are signed.

[Resolute 14]

Originally Posted by Mathgod

Yep, let's pretend like the NDP didn't have to deal with 3 years of historically low oil prices...

They didn't. WTI had recovered to a respectable figure for most of their tenure.

WCS was a different story of course, but Notley's government shares blame in that given her general incompetence on how she handled the sector

[Ozy_Flame]

Originally Posted by RubberDuck

Anecdotal as it is, in my company alone, 11 multi million dollar contracts were on hold until after the election. 2 days later, 9 of them are signed.

You had contracts dependent on the UCP winning and Jason Kenney becoming Premier? Considering no legislation has been passed yet and anything changed from a policy standpoint, that seems . . . . odd. Unless business was happy to proceed based on speculation?

Definitely curious to know more context around this. Industry, conditions, timing, etc. Appreciate if you can't share that though, but definitive information helps your story.

[DiracSpike]

I still can't fathom how anyone could be the Premier of Alberta and meekly shrug off the deaths of Northern Gateway and Energy East, how you couldn't see those projects as the vital economic infrastructure they were. As hard as she fought for TMX in 2018 giving up on those two further ahead projects was just disgraceful.

[OMG!WTF!]

Originally Posted by Ozy_Flame

You had contracts dependent on the UCP winning and Jason Kenney becoming Premier? Considering no legislation has been passed yet and anything changed from a policy standpoint, that seems . . . . odd. Unless business was happy to proceed based on speculation?

Definitely curious to know more context around this. Industry, conditions, timing, etc. Appreciate if you can't share that though, but definitive information helps your story.

Buy the rumor sell the news. Happens all the time everywhere. Trump win...same thing. Brexit...same thing.

[Ozy_Flame]

Originally Posted by OMG!WTF!

Buy the rumor sell the news. Happens all the time everywhere. Trump win...same thing. Brexit...same thing.

I don't think I could sign contracts for my business based on speculation with no signed-off policy implementation change. Seems too risky. But that's just me.

[CaptainCrunch]

[Locke]

Originally Posted by Ozy_Flame

As expected:

Federal Environment Minister vows to impose carbon pricing on Alberta if Kenney scraps provincial levy

Federal Environment Minister Catherine McKenna vowed on Wednesday to impose carbon pricing on Alberta should Jason Kenney’s United Conservatives make good on a campaign pledge to scrap the provincial levy.

“I don’t want to speculate on what’s going to happen, but we’ve been clear that it should not be free to pollute anywhere in the country and we have a backstop should provinces not have a price on pollution,” Ms. McKenna said in a telephone interview from Vancouver.

She said Ottawa hopes to work with Mr. Kenney, although relations between the federal Liberals and conservative governments in other provinces have been antagonistic.

At the end, there is a paragraph about growing environmental concerns around our aging wells:

Mr. Kenney inherits stewardship of an industry that has also struggled with mounting environmental and financial liabilities tied to tens of thousands of aging oil and gas wells and sprawling oil sands tailings pits.

Does Kenney have an overt plan for this?

Ha! Good luck!

Alberta, Saskatchewan, Manitoba, Ontario and most of the Maritimes are all going to tell the Liberals that they can take their Carbon Tax and shove it, good luck forcing it on everyone.

Its not like Kenney is some island and the only one opposed to it.

[Tron_fdc]

I'm enjoying reading the total meltdowns in the CBC comment section. You would think Hitler reincarnate was just elected, and we are marching in on Poland to get a pipeline constructed.

[Oling_Roachinen]

Originally Posted by Locke

Alberta, Saskatchewan, Manitoba, Ontario and most of the Maritimes are all going to tell the Liberals that they can take their Carbon Tax and shove it, good luck forcing it on everyone.

Alberta, Saskatchewan, Manitoba, Ontario and most of the Maritimes are actually fighting for the Liberals to force it on everyone. It's the very argument they are making.

The Federal Government has the ability to tax provinces, this is not up for debate obviously, giving the provinces the ability to set up their own federal tax system is the issue at hand.

[CaptainCrunch]

Originally Posted by Locke

Ha! Good luck!

Alberta, Saskatchewan, Manitoba, Ontario and most of the Maritimes are all going to tell the Liberals that they can take their Carbon Tax and shove it, good luck forcing it on everyone.

Its not like Kenney is some island and the only one opposed to it.

This is going to be a plant federal election issue around tax vs no tax.



Frankly the no carbon tax provincially was a plank of the winning parties. People are going to look at the cost effects of a carbon tax and its going to be bought up by the Conservatives. I guess we'll find out how popular this is and if its a hill that either party is willing to die on.

[TheIronMaiden]

Originally Posted by Tron_fdc

I'm enjoying reading the total meltdowns in the CBC comment section. You would think Hitler reincarnate was just elected, and we are marching in on Poland to get a pipeline constructed.

If they are anything like the conservatives you can enjoy a continuous stream of their salty tears for the next four years.

[rubecube]

Originally Posted by CorsiHockeyLeague

Hey Rube, just curious, what type of cell phone are you using these days?

Effing tapatalk, man. I've had to go through a couple of replacement phones in the last little while and each time I re-download Tapatalk the default setting is that stupid signature and I always forget about it.

[Ozy_Flame]

Originally Posted by rubecube

Effing tapatalk, man. I've had to go through a couple of replacement phones in the last little while and each time I re-download Tapatalk the default setting is that stupid signature and I always forget about it.

You sure you not using a Pixel 3?

[Thor]

In Iceland, this election made news. It was compared to the right wing movements in Europe, Trump and racist anti gay policies, special attention was made to the level of climate change denial in what is Texas north, not a good image...

As someone who lived in Calgary for 20 years, its not a good picture.

[Resolute 14]

If the Icelandic media wishes to be ignorant, that's on them, not Albertans.

[monkeyman]

Originally Posted by Thor

In Iceland, this election made news. It was compared to the right wing movements in Europe, Trump and racist anti gay policies, special attention was made to the level of climate change denial in what is Texas north, not a good image...

As someone who lived in Calgary for 20 years, its not a good picture.

Is that the UCP's fault or the NDP and media for painting a false picture of a the party?
Quite frankly, it says way more about the state of our media than it does the province of Alberta.

[Resolute 14]

Good point. At least Notley can always say her campaign won Icleand's vote.

[nik-]

Originally Posted by Thor

In Iceland, this election made news. It was compared to the right wing movements in Europe, Trump and racist anti gay policies, special attention was made to the level of climate change denial in what is Texas north, not a good image...

As someone who lived in Calgary for 20 years, its not a good picture.

Got any links?

[jayswin]

Originally Posted by Thor

In Iceland, this election made news. It was compared to the right wing movements in Europe, Trump and racist anti gay policies, special attention was made to the level of climate change denial in what is Texas north, not a good image...

As someone who lived in Calgary for 20 years, its not a good picture.

That seems really hard to believe.