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Old 06-06-2023, 12:00 PM   #21
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Why would you think that ?
Giving up a good player, taking on a bad contract. Looks pretty rough for Philly on paper unless they are trading up or just really wanted to get rid of Provorov that badly?
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Why is it always these 3 teams in big interesting trades with each other? Dance with the devil you know I suppose.
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Old 06-06-2023, 12:01 PM   #23
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No, everything the Flames do is a golden decision bestowed upon us by the hockey gods. So say we all.

Flyers/Flames have always shared a bit of intrigue for me. The Flyers have long taken the same approach as the Flames (don’t rebuild, win now - always)…and they’ve struggled in a lot of similar ways to us.
Trade doesn't really have anything to do with the Flames was my point

this trade has zero effect on the value of Noah Hanifin
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Old 06-06-2023, 12:01 PM   #24
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Giving up a good player, taking on a bad contract. Looks pretty rough for Philly on paper unless they are trading up?
They will clearly be getting futures as well, but the 3rd overall is a pipedream unless as you said it involves Philly moving up from 7.
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It's got to be the 22nd overall and a prospect like Mateychuk or Sillinger
For 2 years of Provorov? seems like a hefty price. I could see one or the other being a part of it but not the first AND one of those guys
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For 2 years of Provorov? seems like a hefty price. I could see one or the other being a part of it but not the first AND one of those guys
Two years of a #2 or 3 defender on a 4.7M dollar contract? Absolutely.

People overrate picks all the time - Philly also took on a major cap dump here.
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Old 06-06-2023, 12:03 PM   #27
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What am I missing. Why does Philly do this trade?
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Old 06-06-2023, 12:04 PM   #28
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What am I missing. Why does Philly do this trade?
Probably getting a top prospect, a first rounder, or moving up to 3
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Probably getting a top prospect, a first rounder, or moving up to 3
Or they just hated Provorov.
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Old 06-06-2023, 12:05 PM   #30
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Probably getting a top prospect, a first rounder, or moving up to 3
Oh there's other pieces and not just the thread title players?
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Mmm doesn't Provorov have negative value at this point with that contract? I thought he has been bad for a couple of years now.
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Jarmo Kekäläinen sees the crack in the Metro, I expect him to be moving mountains this off season.

This move screams number 3 is in play.
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Mmm doesn't Provorov have negative value at this point with that contract? I thought he has been bad for a couple of years now.
When you are playing 24 minutes a night on a piss poor roster that's what will happen. Additionally - he's coming at a 4.7M caphit here, not 6.7M.
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Would have made sense if LA was acquiring Provorov. Why are they helping Columbus with retention?
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Would have made sense if LA was acquiring Provorov. Why are they helping Columbus with retention?
Dumping Peterson
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Mmm doesn't Provorov have negative value at this point with that contract? I thought he has been bad for a couple of years now.
It's 30% retained so he's a 4.725M cap hit. BUT he makes $8.5-8.6M over the next two years so 70% of that is still a big cash outlay for him. $6M cash per season.
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If this somehow ends up being the 3rd overall I will eat a lot of crow on Lindholm not being worth it lol
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If this somehow ends up being the 3rd overall I will eat a lot of crow on Lindholm not being worth it lol
I can't see it. It'll be the 22nd (?)
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When you are playing 24 minutes a night on a piss poor roster that's what will happen. Additionally - he's coming at a 4.7M caphit here, not 6.7M.

Oh yeah missed that. Still, seems a bit weird from Columbus since they haven't exactly had the best experience with Russians.
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