11-16-2021, 01:13 PM
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#321
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Oct 2001
Location: Vancouver
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I think this article pretty much sums up my thoughts:
https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/ar...-model/620715/
I am not so offended at a not guilty verdict due to self-defense, but I can't stand how he is being made out to be a good guy either. I believe his purpose there was to appear threatening to people he opposed and it probably worked better than he thought it would, putting himself in a situation where self-defense was required. So not guilty in a legal sense, but definitely not a good kid or a hero in any moral sense.
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11-16-2021, 01:21 PM
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#322
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Powerplay Quarterback
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Originally Posted by Azure
I would assumed there were only 12 jurors to begin with, but I guess they can exclude at random up to the end to get down to 12.
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Azure
Actually seems like a decent idea to have 18 sit through the trial, do a raffle to remove 6, and then go with the 12 remaining for the final verdict.
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The OJ Simpson case started with 24 but still came close to running out of alternates as 10 of them were dismissed during the course of the trial.
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11-16-2021, 01:22 PM
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#323
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Had an idea!
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Originally Posted by Mayer
The other thing to note is that when this picture was taken, the jury had been asked to leave the courtroom, so they wouldn't have observed that. And if they follow the guidelines of the Judge to not read about or talk to anyone about the trial, then they wouldn't have seen the picture at all.
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Considering how this trial has been plastered all over social media, is there a chance the jury hasn't been completely tainted?
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11-16-2021, 02:14 PM
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#324
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Franchise Player
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Judge probably had the raffle drum from his night job as a bingo caller.
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11-16-2021, 02:57 PM
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#325
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Jun 2004
Location: SW Ontario
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Azure
Considering how this trial has been plastered all over social media, is there a chance the jury hasn't been completely tainted?
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With how things are in the US these days would anyone be shocked by a hung jury. Wouldn't be a huge surprise if people got onto this jury so they could score one for their team by voting guilty or not-guilty.
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11-16-2021, 03:53 PM
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#326
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Join Date: Aug 2005
Location: Calgary
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Unsure of the validity of this source, but interesting nonetheless.
https://twitter.com/JackPosobiec/sta...342690311?s=20
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11-16-2021, 03:56 PM
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#327
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Participant
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Mayer
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The thoughts of alt-right white supremacists are always interesting for a certain type of people, I guess.
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11-16-2021, 04:01 PM
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#328
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Norm!
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Originally Posted by Mayer
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Yeah, I'd seen that as well. Again its the idea that the justice system should be a political retribution tool. I don't blame the jurers for being frightened of having their names published with a not guilty next to it.
Its why the government has called up the national guard just in case.
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11-16-2021, 04:03 PM
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#329
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Norm!
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Didn't know who Jacek Posibec was until about 30 seconds ago, ugh.
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11-16-2021, 04:57 PM
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#330
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Mar 2007
Location: Calgary
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US Marshalls are now leaking sequestered jury deliberations?
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11-16-2021, 05:08 PM
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#331
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Aug 2005
Location: Calgary
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Jury is now being let go for the night and not being sequestered in any way. That's a mistake.
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I am beginning to question the moral character of those who cheer for Vancouver.
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11-16-2021, 05:15 PM
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#332
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Aug 2005
Location: Calgary
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Quote:
Originally Posted by PepsiFree
The thoughts of alt-right white supremacists are always interesting for a certain type of people, I guess.
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Any actual thought on what he said? He's not the only one reporting it.
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Originally Posted by HPLovecraft
I am beginning to question the moral character of those who cheer for Vancouver.
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11-16-2021, 05:17 PM
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#333
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Franchise Player
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Mayer
Any actual thought on what he said? He's not the only one reporting it.
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Where is the original source and how is the validity of that source established. I don’t think anyone could cal that “reporting”. More like people repeating a rumour.
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11-16-2021, 05:29 PM
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#334
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Participant
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Mayer
Any actual thought on what he said? He's not the only one reporting it.
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Oh really? Weird he was your first choice and you haven’t produced any others, then.
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11-16-2021, 05:42 PM
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#335
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Franchise Player
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Mayer
Any actual thought on what he said? He's not the only one reporting it.
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Still waiting for him to expose his other reporting like Pizzagate. I will say if anyone knows about guys like Rittenhouse, it would be Posobiec.
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11-16-2021, 05:49 PM
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#336
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Apr 2012
Location: Maryland State House, Annapolis
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You're all gonna be shocked to learn the "other" people talking about it are other alt-righters retweeting or quote-tweeting Posobiec. No one else is mentioning it independently. Posobiec has the "lie about #### and get your rubes to believe" market on lockdown.
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11-16-2021, 06:28 PM
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#337
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Join Date: Aug 2005
Location: Calgary
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Senator Clay Davis
You're all gonna be shocked to learn the "other" people talking about it are other alt-righters retweeting or quote-tweeting Posobiec. No one else is mentioning it independently. Posobiec has the "lie about #### and get your rubes to believe" market on lockdown.
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No clue who this fella is, which is why when I posted, I said "unsure of the validity.....". If he's shown in the past to make things up or report things dishonestly, then this should also be discounted. Like I said, I don't know his history.
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Originally Posted by HPLovecraft
I am beginning to question the moral character of those who cheer for Vancouver.
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11-16-2021, 06:32 PM
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#338
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Apr 2012
Location: Maryland State House, Annapolis
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Even ignoring his repeated history of lying, this is not a federal case, and there would only be US Marshals involved in this if it were federal. So it took a whopping two seconds of logical deduction to figure out he's making it up. Unfortunately through retweets and the related the entire alt-right now believes its true.
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11-16-2021, 07:40 PM
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#340
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Pent-up
Join Date: Mar 2018
Location: Plutanamo Bay.
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Mayer
No clue who this fella is, which is why when I posted, I said "unsure of the validity.....". If he's shown in the past to make things up or report things dishonestly, then this should also be discounted. Like I said, I don't know his history.
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Sorry, but this is kind of the whole problem right now. With a lot of things. You shared it, you should know the source. Not knowing doesn’t absolve you.
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