American Politics 3.0 - Back to Brunch

[MoneyGuy]

Reading some of what Walker says and interview clips he may be the stupidest Republican candidate ever and with people like MTG that’s going some.

[Hemi-Cuda]

Originally Posted by MoneyGuy

Reading some of what Walker says and interview clips he may be the stupidest Republican candidate ever and with people like MTG that’s going some.

And it doesn't matter one bit. He'll be an empty suit voting whatever way Mitch McConnell tells him to, and that's all that matters to republicans

[PeteMoss]

Couple of weeks out from the US mid-terms.

Very likely the Republicans take the house back. The senate likely coming down to a few states - Georgia, Nevada, Pennsylvania. Polls have a few other states close - Ohio, North Carolina, Wisconsin - but I think most expect those to stick to the Republicans.

[corporatejay]

Originally Posted by Hemi-Cuda

And it doesn't matter one bit. He'll be an empty suit voting whatever way Mitch McConnell tells him to, and that's all that matters to republicans

Oh please. Voting party over candidate is not an exclusively republican thing. It’s not even an uniquely American thing.

[MoneyGuy]

Originally Posted by corporatejay

Oh please. Voting party over candidate is not an exclusively republican thing. It’s not even an uniquely American thing.

This is Alberta, where voting party over candidate is an art form.

[Hemi-Cuda]

Originally Posted by corporatejay

Oh please. Voting party over candidate is not an exclusively republican thing. It’s not even an uniquely American thing.

It's a right-wing conservative thing. And yes I know liberals vote party line too, but not nearly as egregiously as conservatives do. Democrats have to run actual campaigns to convince their base to come out to vote for them, whereas Republicans will flat out admit it doesn't matter what their candidate does, winning is all that matters

https://www.newsweek.com/dana-loesch...ortion-1749023

[Cali Panthers Fan]

Originally Posted by Hemi-Cuda

It's a right-wing conservative thing. And yes I know liberals vote party line too, but not nearly as egregiously as conservatives do. Democrats have to run actual campaigns to convince their base to come out to vote for them, whereas Republicans will flat out admit it doesn't matter what their candidate does, winning is all that matters

https://www.newsweek.com/dana-loesch...ortion-1749023

Yeah, I'm going to have to disagree with that assertion.

The political climate in the States right now is making it very hard for anyone with a liberal viewpoint to even consider voting for a Republican. This is especially true for women who have watched Roe v. Wade go away.

My wife is a perfect example. The other day she was filling out her mail in ballot and said "well, this will be pretty quick. I just have to tick off all the democrats on the ballot".

I pointed out that this is exactly what is wrong with American politics these days and she was quick to retort:

"As soon as the Republicans stop being misogynistic #######s, I'm all for an open mind to debating candidates. Until then..."

I can't even blame her.

[Snuffleupagus]

Originally Posted by Cali Panthers Fan

Yeah, I'm going to have to disagree with that assertion.

The political climate in the States right now is making it very hard for anyone with a liberal viewpoint to even consider voting for a Republican. This is especially true for women who have watched Roe v. Wade go away.

My wife is a perfect example. The other day she was filling out her mail in ballot and said "well, this will be pretty quick. I just have to tick off all the democrats on the ballot".

I pointed out that this is exactly what is wrong with American politics these days and she was quick to retort:

"As soon as the Republicans stop being misogynistic #######s, I'm all for an open mind to debating candidates. Until then..."

I can't even blame her.

It's actually shocking to me that Republicans will win races in the US after Roe considering women make up 51% of total US voters. do they just not vote?

[FlamesAddiction]

Originally Posted by Snuffleupagus

It's actually shocking to me that Republicans will win races in the US after Roe considering women make up 51% of total US voters. do they just not vote?

I think a lot of conservative Republican women are just as against abortion. The pro-life rallies often have more women than men.

[Cappy]

Originally Posted by corporatejay

Oh please. Voting party over candidate is not an exclusively republican thing. It’s not even an uniquely American thing.

In the US, it's even worse of a tactic as there is no guarantee a political candidate will vote for the "party"

[PeteMoss]

Originally Posted by Snuffleupagus

It's actually shocking to me that Republicans will win races in the US after Roe considering women make up 51% of total US voters. do they just not vote?

Also most voters are too old for it to be an issue for them anyways. With the current economic conditions - its quite surprising that the democrats are doing as well as they are in a mid-term - so it is still a big issue.

[activeStick]

Recent polls are showing the economy and inflation as the top 2 issues among voters in the midterms. Biden's campaigning has decided to make the codification of Roe as their focal point. The fallout from the Supreme Court decision was obviously a big plus for the Dems a few months ago when they won key votes in some states back then, but I think if they continue to make this their key message for the midterms, they'll risk not relating to undecided voters.

[Hemi-Cuda]

Originally Posted by Cali Panthers Fan

Yeah, I'm going to have to disagree with that assertion.

The political climate in the States right now is making it very hard for anyone with a liberal viewpoint to even consider voting for a Republican. This is especially true for women who have watched Roe v. Wade go away.

My wife is a perfect example. The other day she was filling out her mail in ballot and said "well, this will be pretty quick. I just have to tick off all the democrats on the ballot".

I pointed out that this is exactly what is wrong with American politics these days and she was quick to retort:

"As soon as the Republicans stop being misogynistic #######s, I'm all for an open mind to debating candidates. Until then..."

I can't even blame her.

Then why are the Democrats predicted to lose the house in a few weeks? And the senate is a tossup. Republicans have shown their true colors in the last few months with abortion, LBGTQ rights, and women's rights all under direct assault. Yet they're going to GAIN power as a result. That doesn't happen if some democrat voters don't switch sides, or at the very least stay home because they don't like their options

[TheoFleury]

Originally Posted by Hemi-Cuda

Then why are the Democrats predicted to lose the house in a few weeks? And the senate is a tossup. Republicans have shown their true colors in the last few months with abortion, LBGTQ rights, and women's rights all under direct assault. Yet they're going to GAIN power as a result. That doesn't happen if some democrat voters don't switch sides, or at the very least stay home because they don't like their options

Mostly just people voting against their own self interests. One day they will learn

Probably not

[jayswin]

Originally Posted by TheoFleury

Mostly just people voting against their own self interests. One day they will learn

Probably not

Yep, that's been what the majority of Republican voters have been doing for decades. It's seeping into Alberta now as well. They gut everything that matters to middle and low income Albertans, but gall darnit at least I ain't voting for a SOCIALIST PARTY!!!!!

[Bs&Cs]

Originally Posted by Hemi-Cuda

Then why are the Democrats predicted to lose the house in a few weeks?

Let me introduce you to my friend Gerry. Gerry Mander.

[jayswin]

Haha, yep.

[Cecil Terwilliger]

Originally Posted by Bs&Cs

Let me introduce you to my friend Gerry. Gerry Mander.

Don’t forget voter suppression!

[JohnnyB]

The Dems have already been eating up oil reserves trying to keep prices down, they had the student debt reduction stimulus, they moved to start letting people off of minor marijuana charges. The Republicans meanwhile have taken away abortion rights. And yet, it's still close.

[dobbles]

Lets not forget though that historically midterm elections do not go well for the party with the presidency. Early projections had dems losing both houses of congress by quite a bit. So these issues have had an effect. If the dems can manage to keep the senate, that would be huge. The house will most likely go to the republicans, but at least at a smaller majority. So they will have less wiggle room to get crazy without losing the moderates that have to protect their seat.

I think its safe to assume nothing productive will get done legislatively if republicans take control, but keeping the senate would be huge for judicial confirmations and such.