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Old 05-05-2023, 11:01 AM   #461
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Tough day for all the people who said they definitely didn’t care about the pandemic or any restrictions now that they’ll officially be the only ones left still obsessing over it.

Hope the Thursday corner crew in Inglewood doesn’t take this news too hard.
You cannot read any tweet on twitter or anything anywhere without some idiot talking about the mandates or jabs, its infuriating.

The worst part of Covid is that it gave us the hope that it would kill a lot of people but it did not kill nearly enough of them. It raised hopes and failed to deliver on it.
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Old 05-05-2023, 11:01 AM   #462
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so it was UCP is what you are saying?
Rotate that U 90° clockwise.
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Old 05-05-2023, 11:08 AM   #463
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I have already started licking doorknobs again. The Brass ones are my favorite.
Ha!

So, short story;

I have client chairs in my office, this season people who came in asked me why I hadnt replaced them because they look like hell.

I didnt replace them because, while they look like hell they're still comfy. And you want to know why they look like hell? Because those chairs went through the pandemic. Thats what it looks like when you have to wipe down a 'leather' chair with alcohol wipes after every customer for the better part of a year.

Its a reminder of how little we knew and understood at the time. This tax season was their 'Victory Lap' I'm going to put them in the waiting room...as a reminder.
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Old 05-05-2023, 11:16 AM   #464
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I didnt replace them because, while they look like hell they're still comfy. And you want to know why they look like hell? Because those chairs went through the pandemic. Thats what it looks like when you have to wipe down a 'leather' chair with alcohol wipes after every customer for the better part of a year.
You should have invested in those paper rolls that do nothing that they have in doctors offices. Roll out a clean fresh seat cover for every customer.
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Old 05-05-2023, 11:26 AM   #465
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Who's laughing at grannie's plastic couch covers now, eh?
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Old 05-05-2023, 01:29 PM   #466
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Awesome news, now things will go back to the way they were right? RIGHT?!?!
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Old 05-05-2023, 02:27 PM   #467
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There is a disproportionate amount of homeless people wearing masks now. It’s weird.

It’s either the fault of the UCP or Trudeau or even perpetrated by those two.
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Old 07-22-2023, 07:52 PM   #468
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Interesting to say the least

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Old 07-23-2023, 08:47 AM   #469
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I came to terms this was a lab leak in late January 2020. China just knew what they were dealing with far too quickly for a “novel” virus.

The guy in the video was right. He says with regret, If scientists are forced to say something due to politics, what else are they being coerced to say?
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Old 07-23-2023, 10:07 AM   #470
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That's some pretty selective excerpts from the slack messages.

Read the whole Slack messages. Kristian Andersen starts saying lab leak being the most likely. They all discuss it openly. Then, as they discuss more evidence over months and learn new things, they discuss the change in their thinking. If you don't just take snippets, it's literally just scientists discussing things over months and allow their priors to change based on evidence. This is all getting ridiculous. Seriously, read the whole slack. That video uses some pretty strong biased language.


You can download the whole slack thread. If you do, you'll see very smart reasonable scientists discussing things and even discussing how their priors might be right or wrong. Why would they discuss the hundreds of different data points in a very clear and earnest way, if not to actually discover the origin? Andersen repeatedly says early that due to the lab being right there it just seems most likely. Then they discuss protein and genetic differences and bounce back and forth. They discuss other viruses and how they evolved, how far these viruses travelled on distance within the limits of the evolution from the closest known virus. They then go back and forth and discuss time of new emerging data finally solidifying around a finding that lab leak cannot be ruled out, but does not seem likely based on the evidence at hand.


The absolute click bait nonsense in that video in infuriating
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Well good news, just this past week the US Govt' has ended funding for the Wuhan lab facility.
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Well good news, just this past week the US Govt' has ended funding for the Wuhan lab facility.
That'll make sure no more leaks happen...
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Well good news, just this past week the US Govt' has ended funding for the Wuhan lab facility.
Sounds like bad news and will result in less international involvement in a class III bio lab increasing the likelihood of an accident in the future.
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I don't like bumping such threads that haven't had updates in nearly a year, but I think considering the topic it's really the best one, and it's quite a major revelation worthy of a bump, from a traditionally reputable trustworthy news source.

https://www.wsj.com/world/china/chin...-show-9bca8865

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Chinese Lab Mapped Deadly Coronavirus Two Weeks Before Beijing Told the World, Documents Show
The lead time could have proved critical in combating pandemic, specialists say
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WASHINGTON—Chinese researchers isolated and mapped the virus that causes Covid-19 in late December 2019, at least two weeks before Beijing revealed details of the deadly virus to the world, congressional investigators said, raising questions anew about what China knew in the pandemic’s crucial early days.

Documents obtained from the U.S. Department of Health and Human Services by a House committee and reviewed by The Wall Street Journal show that a Chinese researcher in Beijing uploaded a nearly complete sequence of the virus’s structure to a U.S. government-run database on Dec. 28, 2019. Chinese officials at that time were still publicly describing the disease outbreak in Wuhan, China, as a viral pneumonia “of unknown cause” and had yet to close the Huanan Seafood Wholesale Market, site of one of the initial Covid-19 outbreaks.
If this is accurate, China government officials thus deliberately withheld crucial information on covid-19 that could have been vital on potentially stopping it, and had even nearly fully sequenced it in late December, 2 weeks before handing it to the WHO. The key error and slip up seems to be uploading the sequence to a database that the US had access to, that would have otherwise been covered up.

It also puts further scrutiny on its origins and the closing of the Huanan Seafood Wholesale Market as being potentially theatre

Note the WHO timeline

https://www.cdc.gov/museum/timeline/covid19.html.

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The Huanan Seafood Wholesale Market in Wuhan is closed amid worries in China of a reprise of the 2002–2004 SARS (Severe Acute Respiratory Syndrome Coronavirus or SARS-CoV-1) outbreak.

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CDC establishes an incident management structure to guide their response to the novel coronavirus by following the preparedness plan for developing tests and managing cases made for Middle East Respiratory Syndrome Coronavirus (MERS-CoV).
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WHO tweets that it has received the genetic sequences of the novel coronavirus from China and expects that the information will shortly become publicly available.

CDC updates its Travel Health Notice (THN) system for persons traveling to Wuhan, China to Level 1 or “practice usual precautions.”

China reports the first death from the novel coronavirus and publishes a draft genome of the newly discovered coronavirus suspected of causing the outbreak. By January 12, 2020, four other genomes have been uploaded to the viral sequence database curated by the Global Initiative on Sharing All Influenza Data (GISAID).
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Well to be fair if this happened in the US they would cover it up as well.

But of course nobody is surprised that China is involved with this.

Still trying to figure out what happened in Winnipeg with the Chinese scientists that were deported.
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Aren’t you inferring a lot in saying this is evidence it was man made. Doesn’t this support that it was an unknown virus as it was treated as unremarkable by the laboratory that sequenced it originally and then the government tried to cover it up.

Also interesting is that the US knew that there was this viral outbreak going on and didn’t somehow flag this new virus sequence being uploaded and allowed it to expire. Though that might just be a function of how these databases work.

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Aren’t you inferring a lot in saying this is evidence it was man made. Doesn’t this support that it was an unknown virus as it was treated as unremarkable by the laboratory that sequenced it originally and then the government tried to cover it up.

Also interesting is that the US knew that there was this viral outbreak going on and didn’t somehow flag this new virus sequence being uploaded and allowed it to expire. Though that might just be a function of how these databases work.
New viruses get added to the databases all the time, so that wouldn't have been noteworthy on the US's side, nor would it have created any kind of alarm bells.

However, the same is also true on the Chinese side. Novel human pathogens get discovered and sequenced relatively regularly (I think 4-6 times a year in recent years), so the first step from that happening isn't outright panic, particularly since they likely weren't even sure human-to-human transmission was happening. The first assumption would have been that this was a case of animal-to-human transmission which required further study. And that was (presumably) just one sample that was sequenced in December, so they didn't necessarily know other cases were related until they eliminated other known causes of the illness and sequenced additional samples, which takes time.

Once they realized that there was a real outbreak and the novel virus was the cause, obviously best practise would have been to notify the WHO and other organizations earlier than January 11th. But we're talking about China here. And all the histrionics about the practical implications of the sequence being published maybe a week later than it should have been are ridiculous. The sequence didn't inform mitigation measures outside of China, so it wouldn't have sped any of that up. At most, you could say vaccine research was slowed down by a few days.
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Chinese lab crafts mutant COVID-19 strain with 100% kill rate in ‘humanized’ mice: ‘Surprisingly’ rapid death

https://nypost.com/2024/01/16/news/c...ese-lab-study/
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Old 01-18-2024, 10:56 PM   #479
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^ Ya, that's ####ed up. China needs to stop.playing god.
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Well species have come and gone from the planet over millions of years.

If not by nuclear warfare I'm pegging self inflicted extinction event by a lab designed virus as how humans go out.

It would be very befitting of the species.
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