2022/2023 Trade Speculation and Rumours

[Paulie Walnuts]

Saros was the only reason Nashville was in a playoff race seems strange to trade him mid season for late 1st round picks.

[Sandman]

IIRC, Nashville started selling even though they weren't eliminated from the playoffs yet?

[Paulie Walnuts]

They did but they hoodwinked the Oilers into taking a broken Ekholm.

Just seems weird to trade you franchise goalie even Anaheim kept Gibson.

[bluejays]

I think what's rare in sports or the corporate world is the ability for lower staff who see the reality, to speak up and have upper management accept that reality. If Nashville truly was open to selling even though they're in the thick of the race, it tells me they have a smart organization looking to build to a long term plan while not succumbing to the pressures of easy playoff money at the expense of long term growth. Probably a mature organization behind the scenes, and not run by a bunch of corporate bozos.

[FlamesAddiction]

Originally Posted by bluejays

Meh, I don't fall for highlight videos. College basketball and hockey juniors show you can't trust the skill shown. Simply put a broken clock is right twice a day, and by the same token a particular skill could be shown off but consistency is where it's at. Every single NHLer has flashes of brilliance at times but the true ones are consistent. I haven't followed Konecny's career closely to say one way or another but watching a highlight video or select plays is a recipe for disaster.

That's true. Highlight videos just by their nature only show you the best parts. I can't lie and say I have watched more than just a few Flyers games per season over the years, plus highlights. From what I have seen though, I really like Konecny and think he checks a lot of the boxes. I would say he is like a poor man's Tkachuk in a lot of ways, but slightly smaller with better skating.

- He is a top 6 RW who shoots right, which checks a big box.
- He has a history of decent production.
- He plays with a chip on his shoulder and can goad players into taking penalties.
- He hits and plays bigger than his size.
- He is really good around the net and has a decent shot. Always seems to sneak into open areas.
- He is apparently fun to be around and could bring some needed levity to the locker room after last season.
- His defensive game has improved under Torts. He is one of the Flyers main penalty killing forwards.
- He apparently has some personal ties to Calgary, so he might actually welcome playing here.

The only downsides that I am aware of, is like Tkachuk, he can go overboard with the antics and take dumb penalties and he can be a little inconsistent. While he has been a PPG player last season and has approached that level in 2 other seasons, he seems to do it in bunches.

He played 60 games last season because of injury, and had 61 points. But he was held off the scoreboard in 21 games. He gets a lot of multi-point games. One of those players who when they are on, they are really on, but also goes pointless for stretches. But let's face it, if he was more consistent, he'd be a 100 point player and out of our price range anyway, and at least he can do other things other than score.

[ComixZone]

Originally Posted by TheScorpion

Bring me Travis Konecny this instant.

He’s a fine player, but is he a difference maker? Or is he just more of that middle tier player that keeps us where we are?

[dissentowner]

Originally Posted by ComixZone

He’s a fine player, but is he a difference maker? Or is he just more of that middle tier player that keeps us where we are?

Difference maker like how? Can he win games in his own? No, but there are like a handful of players who can. He is the type of player you want to go to war with though.

[ComixZone]

Originally Posted by dissentowner

Difference maker like how? Can he win games in his own? No, but there are like a handful of players who can. He is the type of player you want to go to war with though.

I think I’d sooner work on drafting a Konecny, not trading significant assets to acquire that player.

[Samonadreau]

We would move out Lindholm, bring in Konecny and be the same team.

[Bonded]

Yeah, if you can keep Lindholm and get Konency while flipping out Backlund/Toffoli/Mangipane then I'm board. Zero point if Lindholm is gone

[traptor]

I like konecny but I don't think the flames are in a place to acquire him. The price would be high and I feel like we have enough konecny caliber players.

Only way it makes sense is if you re-sign lindy, trade 2 or mor3 of the remaining 2024 UFAs + vladar for picks/prospects then flip some of those into konecny.

Seems like alot of conditions for a marginal improvement.

[ForeverFlameFan]

Originally Posted by Paulie Walnuts

They did but they hoodwinked the Oilers into taking a broken Ekholm.

Just seems weird to trade you franchise goalie even Anaheim kept Gibson.

Askarov is in the pipeline. Why not sell high? Lots of teams, like us, miss the window of selling high.

If LA is willing to pay a high premium for Saros, I think Trotz will gladly pack his bags.

[dammage79]

Konecny does nothing for me in regards to the Flames.

Especially if Briere is out there with rookie gm magic.


Flames need to move their assets for good hauls. Not spend assets and give good hauls for lateral move guys like Konecny.

[FlamesAddiction]

Originally Posted by traptor

I like konecny but I don't think the flames are in a place to acquire him. The price would be high and I feel like we have enough konecny caliber players.

I don't think we have enough players of his caliber. A PPG, 30 goal scores, who also kills penalties isn't something we have a lot of. Not to mention he is only 26 and has 2 seasons left at $5.5 million per.

I do agree though, that if Lindholm is traded and we can't get another #1 center, nothing really matters.

[Mass_nerder]

Originally Posted by midniteowl

Yup, this was how Oilers drafted Yakupov.

Bold of you to assume they even watched highlights and didn't just read a few Sportsnet/TSN draft rankings.

[really?]

Originally Posted by Samonadreau

We would move out Lindholm, bring in Konecny and be the same team.

Lesser team.

[Monahammer]

Man the flames consistently ####ing suck hard at taking advantage of trade opportunities. Provorov is worse than hanifin. We could have had a great return for hanifin from Columbus. The teams were already rumored to be talking... it's just stupid that we're again going to hold on to #### players who can't win because of some arcane one sided loyalty to the club we've built around them. ####in hell. They're really going to try to run this steaming pile of #### back to the end zone.

[The Cobra]

Originally Posted by Monahammer

Man the flames consistently ####ing suck hard at taking advantage of trade opportunities. Provorov is worse than hanifin. We could have had a great return for hanifin from Columbus. The teams were already rumored to be talking... it's just stupid that we're again going to hold on to #### players who can't win because of some arcane one sided loyalty to the club we've built around them. ####in hell. They're really going to try to run this steaming pile of #### back to the end zone.

We really have no idea what happened behind the scenes.

Hanifin only has 1 season left before UFA, and perhaps that made a huge difference to Columbus, as Hanifin wouldn’t engage in extension discussions with Columbus?

A players “value” is based on a number of factors which you’ve conveniently ignored.

Maybe Columbus simply likes Porovov more?

[The Cobra]

Originally Posted by really?

Lesser team.

How about in 2024 when we would have the advantage of Konecny playing vs. No one as Lindholm would have left?

[Flames1217]

I don't think acquiring Konecny has much of an impact on Lindholm at all. If anything it might entice him to stay but the cap is going to be hard to manage.

The second the Flames signed Kadri it made signing Lindholm very difficult. We are paying our 2nd line center 7 million dollars and Lindholm brings so much more than Kadri does to the table.

I'm all for acquiring Konecny though assuming that we can center the deal around Mangiapane. The cap would essentially have to equal to make things work.

If Conroy could ship Kadri back to Colorado with a bit of retention I would also look to do so. Backlund is still a more than capable 2C and you could give Dube the 3C role and slowly prepare him to take over the 2C in 2025. I don't think it's out of question that Dube could become a viable 2C with his bite speed and skill.