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[White Out 403]

Originally Posted by White Out 403

i think there's a continuum where abortions go from being medical care and a womans choice, to, yeah, kind of murdery.

Originally Posted by #-3

I would like you to find just one, one incident of this happening. I want you to even explain to me what an abortion during labour is?

Please see the above. Simply trying to establish the outer edges of what would be considered acceptable and morally unacceptable.

[Hockey_Ninja]

Originally Posted by White Out 403

Quality stuff.

Bro, the hypothetical you created is both absurd and isn’t based in reality. Late term abortions happen due to medical issues with the baby and/or mother. Not because the mom was in labor and was like “Oops, maybe I don’t wanna pop this little fella out after all”

[accord1999]

Originally Posted by White Out 403

Please see the above. Simply trying to establish the outer edges of what would be considered acceptable and morally unacceptable.

Most of Europe, on paper at least, have limits after about 12-16 weeks. Most of the global south don't even allow elective abortions.

[White Out 403]

Originally Posted by Hockey_Ninja

Bro, the hypothetical you created is both absurd and isn’t based in reality. Late term abortions happen due to medical issues with the baby and/or mother. Not because the mom was in labor and was like “Oops, maybe I don’t wanna pop this little fella out after all”

A yes or no please as asked

[afc wimbledon]

Personally I would set the limit at what age the fetus can survive out of the womb without medical intervention, if you can pop it on to a towel and feed it with a bottle its a human, if it would die within seconds or minutes of the umbilical being cut then it isnt

[PepsiFree]

Originally Posted by White Out 403

A yes or no please as asked

Canada’s setup makes sense to me where there is no legal limit but providers set limits that are based on a medical standpoint.

It’s a bit of a dumb question though because we can pretty easily assume most people are referring to the government as the thing standing between a woman and her choice.

Your hypothetical would be similar to questioning someone supporting same-sex marriage who says “The government shouldn’t tell me who I can marry, I should be able to marry whoever I want!” with “so do you think a gay man should get to marry ANY other gay man? even if the other man didn’t want to??? he could just force him to marry him??? YES OR NO?” like, let’s not be stupid. Put on our thinking caps a little here and just make some logical assumptions. Asking if people think it should be woman’s choice to kill a baby when the head is halfway out is pretty ####ing stupid.

[White Out 403]

So, no?

[FanIn80]

Originally Posted by White Out 403

What about while in labor? A fully developed baby that's about to be born. That's ok? Simple yes or no answer please

Originally Posted by White Out 403

A yes or no please as asked

Originally Posted by White Out 403

So, no?

Holy f*** are you ever special.

[White Out 403]

Originally Posted by FanIn80

Holy f*** are you ever special.

thank you

[GirlySports]

Originally Posted by afc wimbledon

Personally I would set the limit at what age the fetus can survive out of the womb without medical intervention, if you can pop it on to a towel and feed it with a bottle its a human, if it would die within seconds or minutes of the umbilical being cut then it isnt

That would be almost full term. Lungs are the last thing to develop.

[Locke]

This is going well.

[White Out 403]

Originally Posted by FanIn80

Holy f*** are you ever special.

Everyone here with a half brain cell knows exactly why the faux outrage is going on, and the question is getting obtuse responses. I'll put it on the table; once you admit a continuum exists where on one end of the spectrum abortion is morally ambiguous at worst, and on the other end it's border line murder, you have to engage in a discussion on where to draw the line. Instead of being honest about it and having that discussion, people pretend like the question is irrelevant because it's an absurd scenario. It doesn't matter how unlikely the scenario is, the question remains: if you wouldn't abort a child just before it passes the birth canal, how far back can you go before you would?

[PepsiFree]

Originally Posted by Locke

This is going well.

Just tell us if you think it’s ok to shoot a 3 month old baby with a glock. YES OR NO.

[White Out 403]

Originally Posted by PepsiFree

Just tell us if you think it’s ok to shoot a 3 month old baby with a glock. YES OR NO.

Hey, let me do an impression of you:

UMM THAT'S A DUMB SCENARIO. SOMETHING SOMETHING GAY PEOPLE.

How about, a simple no there? Jesus christ.

[Locke]

Originally Posted by PepsiFree

Just tell us if you think it’s ok to shoot a 3 month old baby with a glock. YES OR NO.

[PepsiFree]

Originally Posted by White Out 403

Everyone here with a half brain cell knows exactly why the faux outrage is going on, and the question is getting obtuse responses. I'll put it on the table; once you admit a continuum exists where on one end of the spectrum abortion is morally ambiguous at worst, and on the other end it's border line murder, you have to engage in a discussion on where to draw the line. Instead of being honest about it and having that discussion, people pretend like the question is irrelevant because it's an absurd scenario. It doesn't matter how unlikely the scenario is, the question remains: if you wouldn't abort a child just before it passes the birth canal, how far back can you go before you would?

Would support a woman murdering a toddler with her bare hands, yes or no?

[Cycling76er]

Originally Posted by PepsiFree

Would support a woman murdering a toddler with her bare hands, yes or no?

Shaken or stirred?

[White Out 403]

Originally Posted by PepsiFree

Would support a woman murdering a toddler with her bare hands, yes or no?

No.
(unless it's baby hitler and u have a time machine I should edit that in)
Now want to try my question finally?

[PepsiFree]

Originally Posted by White Out 403

No.
(unless it's baby hitler and u have a time machine I should edit that in)
Now want to try my question finally?

Sorry, guess you hate women if you don’t support their choice. Not interested in discussing further. Bye misogynist.

[FormerPresJamesTaylor]

The deserved pile-on seems to have ended but I'm just going to jump on before everyone starts getting out; Whiteout, stop being dumb.