[News] Oliver Kylington, Derek Ryan and Zac Rinaldo on waivers. UPD: all 3 clear

[savardandjokinen]

Originally Posted by SuperMatt18

It’s quite possible this is all just for cap flexibility too.

With the taxi squad it actually makes a lot of sense just to carry a 20 man roster. And by waiving guys you have more flexibility on how that works.

Since cap space is calculated daily and accrues up this could be a way to create some deadline space for an add. You put your 13th forward and 7th dman on the taxi squad to have a lower daily hit and keep the cap space.

It’s a risk that they might get taken on waivers but lots of teams are going to be doing this, so doing it now likely lowers that risk.

That makes me feel better about waiving Kylington. Still don’t understand why Nordstrom (or Simon) makes it over Ryan

[dino7c]

Originally Posted by savardandjokinen

That makes me feel better about waiving Kylington. Still don’t understand why Nordstrom (or Simon) makes it over Ryan

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[SeanCharles]

Originally Posted by savardandjokinen

That makes me feel better about waiving Kylington. Still don’t understand why Nordstrom (or Simon) makes it over Ryan

Ryan is the most logical guy to waive as we can put him on the taxi squad and reap the cap savings.

Even if it’s just on off days it still adds up.

[Weitz]

Originally Posted by SuperMatt18

It’s quite possible this is all just for cap flexibility too.

With the taxi squad it actually makes a lot of sense just to carry a 20 man roster. And by waiving guys you have more flexibility on how that works.

Since cap space is calculated daily and accrues up this could be a way to create some deadline space for an add. You put your 13th forward and 7th dman on the taxi squad to have a lower daily hit and keep the cap space.

It’s a risk that they might get taken on waivers but lots of teams are going to be doing this, so doing it now likely lowers that risk.

I am curious if there will even be any trades between Canadian teams and the USA. 14 day quarantine and all.

[David Struch]

Lol at the posters who've recently suggested Captain Mark Giordano be exposed in favour of trade bait Oliver Kylington.

[Reggie Dunlop]

Kylington being still relatively young, plus being on a cheap and short-term deal might be enticing for a team looking for blue line depth.

[SeanCharles]

Originally Posted by David Struch

Lol at the posters who've recently suggested Captain Mark Giordano be exposed in favour of trade bait Oliver Kylington.

We were talking about this in the event Kylington had a solid season this year.

[savardandjokinen]

Originally Posted by dino7c

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This team needs to ice the best lineup. I don’t see any moves with our free cap space this season. Maybe trading for some random depth dman at the deadline like usual. Given the past, this money means nothing in season

[TheIronMaiden]

Originally Posted by savardandjokinen

That makes me feel better about waiving Kylington. Still don’t understand why Nordstrom (or Simon) makes it over Ryan

maybe his foot speed has declined? Ryan is 34, he is 3 years older than any other forward on the team. we can't discount the factor of aging.

[Voodooman]

Originally Posted by getbak

Stone is still on a PTO. There's no guarantee he is even signed to a contract. If/when he is, he'll almost-certainly go on waivers and be assigned to the taxi squad.

I swear though, if they re-sign Stone yet again off the PTO, while simultaneously still paying and wasting cap space on buyout money, Tre should have to sit through a 4 hour conference call with CP members, and answer all our idiotic questions and trade theories.

There has to be some form of humiliation for doing something that stupid twice.

[Bingo]

I'm a little surprised on both players, but not a lot.

As I've posted a few times in the last week or so Kylington is sliding for me. Great boots, but with his pedestrian style with the puck on his stick I think his processing speed just isn't there to utilize his speed. And that's what he is ... a transition guy. He doesn't seem all that offensive, and he'll never be a shut down defender.

If he can't think fast enough to use his feet then he's just a small defenseman that has little going for him.

Could easily be wrong, but that's what I saw last year.

The clock was ticking, and Mackey arrived to push the big hand to 12.

[Funkhouser]

Originally Posted by Monahammer

I don't think Kylington will be claimed, and if he is good for him. He deserves a fair crack and I don't think it's going to happen here. Nesterov and Mackey have jumped over him, and there are other young D to fill following them. People who invoke the regret of Byron and Kulak don't seem to realize that both those players are now underperforming bigger contracts than they deserve while having not actually contributed meaningfully to winning rosters since we lost them...

The same Paul Byron who was just given the A yesterday in Montreal? The one who can play up and down the lineup, be one of their top PKers and can get 40pts in a season (in the top 9)?

How about Kulak? The same Kulak who played on their top pairing in the playoffs (and beat the Pens) but can also play up and down the lineup??

Pretty sure the Habs are happy with those contracts.

[topfiverecords]

None of this is surprising. The waives and the overreactions.

[Bingo]

Originally Posted by Voodooman

I swear though, if they re-sign Stone yet again off the PTO, while simultaneously still paying and wasting cap space on buyout money, Tre should have to sit through a 4 hour conference call with CP members, and answer all our idiotic questions and trade theories.

There has to be some form of humiliation for doing something that stupid twice.

Any signing at league minimum on your taxi squad doesn't count against your cap.

He would be free depth.

His old buy out was about managing the cap last year, and has nothing to do with now.

[Enoch Root]

Kylington doesn't concern me. Seems pretty unlikely that he will be claimed, but if he is, so be it. He has fallen to #7 on the depth chart, despite significant turnover. And Mackey is threatening to pass him as well. The most likely scenario is that he clears, and goes to the taxi squad, where he should be.

Ryan is more interesting. First of all, it doesn't mean that he is cut from the team (like some people seem to conclude every time someone is put on waivers). But it does suggest that the Flames are comfortable with the risk of losing him - meaning they are comfortable with Bennett at C.

But this is about dollars with Ryan. By waiving him, they can move him up and down on the taxi squad. He makes $3.125M, so each day that he is on the taxi squad, they save $2+M on the per diem. Right now, the team is healthy. To start the season, they play 3 games, then are off for 5 days. So if they leave Ryan on the taxi squad for those 3 games, that would be 11 days where they save $2m (prorated). That is a significant savings that will take a lot of the pressure off of their cap situation. And again, that is only 3 games.

[Bonded]

At this point, if someone wants Kylington I hope they take him. For whatever reason it seems like he has fallen out of favour with the Flames and he isn't worth much in a trade. Flames did a favour to Kulak and I prefer they do the same for Kylington if they do not think he is good enough to make the Flames.
Not sure which D-core he could step into and be a lock though.
Ryan is interesting, won't be too fussed if he gets claimed as it opens up some options in a cash strapped year.

[SuperMatt18]

Detroit or LA would be the most likely to take Kylington IMO.

Probably becomes an NHLer on both of those rosters, and both tend to like Swedish players.

[David Struch]

Ryan was immediately demoted when Peters left, I thought he would've made the most sense to move up when Tkachuk went down but Ward doesn't value him for whatever reason.

Adam Ruzicka and Glenn Gawdin will getting in some games this season as they attempt to earn a centre position with the Flames then we'll have Connor Zary and Mathias Emilio Pettersen eventually trying to make the line-up at centre position too.

[FlamesAddiction]

I would be surprised if Edmonton doesn't take Kylington.

He would be a better option than Jones or Koekoek, plus he fits their desire for one-dimensional offensive players.

[GioforPM]

Originally Posted by Ashasx

That he hasn't been released from his PTO, or signed and waived instead, makes me believe the Flames value him above Kylington.

But I think he clears anyway.

This makes no sense. Why release a PTO before you have to?