09-19-2020, 09:16 AM
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#741
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Jun 2009
Location: Thunder Bay Ontario
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A friend and I were having a conversation, what if your team got something like the 7 pick overall and both Drysdale and askarov were on the board, who would you take?
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09-19-2020, 09:25 AM
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#742
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Jun 2011
Location: Calgary
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Askarov all day long
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09-19-2020, 10:15 AM
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#743
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Jan 2018
Location: Alberta
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I take Drysdale over askarov. But I doubt Drysdale would be there at 7 so would take askarov
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09-19-2020, 10:54 AM
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#744
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Powerplay Quarterback
Join Date: Jul 2005
Location: winnipeg
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Quote:
Originally Posted by ComixZone
Lapierre is definitely interesting - he could absolutely be a late hit. Dude only played 48 games in his D-1 and 19 games in his D-0 year, so no one really has a full read on him. Could be a "home run" swing at 19.
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if I recall thats how the Flames ended up with Backlund - teams scared of him because of injuries in his junior career
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09-19-2020, 12:17 PM
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#745
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Franchise Player
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Monahammer
I take Drysdale over askarov. But I doubt Drysdale would be there at 7 so would take askarov
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Agree with this. No way Drysdale makes it to 7. Askarov can go in the 7-13 range. But as a Flame, I think I take him.
We need to solidify our future goaltending.
If he makes it to 12/13, I wonder if 19 and 50 gets it done to move up and pick him
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09-19-2020, 12:26 PM
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#746
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Franchise Player
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Id be pretty pumped if the Flames not only burned their 1st round pick, but their 1st AND 2nd round picks on a Russian goalie.
/sarcasm
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09-19-2020, 12:58 PM
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#747
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#1 Goaltender
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Askarov is always so in control. He looks just like Carey Price.
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09-19-2020, 05:59 PM
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#748
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Jun 2011
Location: Calgary
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I did some looking up on the D men on Buttons poll list. Yeah Justin Barron screams Flames pick. I wouldnt be too upset but the rest of them, yeah no.
Still want one of those Right shor forwards or Amirov tbh. But if they reach (sort of) down for Barron, I'd be okay with that.
Something tells me he may go really high though. Slim pickins for D men and all.
Last edited by dammage79; 09-19-2020 at 06:04 PM.
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09-20-2020, 12:24 AM
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#749
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Jun 2013
Location: Calgary
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Yeah, with the exciting group of forwards that will be available at our pick, it would be a little disappointing to see them draft a D-man. The last few picks of the first round and the second and third rounds are for Defense. Justin Barron is interesting though-he was pegged to be a high first-rounder, but didn't quite show his stuff, possibly due to injury.
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09-20-2020, 08:32 AM
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#750
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Franchise Player
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Assuming we don’t get Askarov and if BPA are close, I’d want a center with our first rounder and a D man with our 2nd rounder and A goalie with our 4th rounder
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09-20-2020, 09:05 AM
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#751
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Franchise Player
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Quote:
Originally Posted by dammage79
I did some looking up on the D men on Buttons poll list. Yeah Justin Barron screams Flames pick. I wouldnt be too upset but the rest of them, yeah no.
Still want one of those Right shor forwards or Amirov tbh. But if they reach (sort of) down for Barron, I'd be okay with that.
Something tells me he may go really high though. Slim pickins for D men and all.
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Buttons poll list doesn't make sense. His list is all d-men. Most of them will be late first to early 2nd picks. Just because they have not drafted a d man in a while, doesnt mean they have to take one at 19.
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09-20-2020, 03:06 PM
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#752
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Franchise Player
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https://############.com/2020/09/20/...edium=facebook
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As much as Askarov is appearing to be one of the next great goaltenders, I think the Oilers should avoid drafting him if he were to fall to t4th overall. While Askarov would fill a huge spot in the Oilers organization, there’s other, much larger holes that could be addressed through the first round of the draft.
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In case anyone was feeling bad about any direction the Flames might take.
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09-20-2020, 03:24 PM
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#753
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Oct 2001
Location: Vancouver
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Has anyone organized the 1st round into tiers yet? I am interested to see what it looks like.
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09-20-2020, 06:04 PM
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#754
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Feb 2006
Location: Calgary, AB
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Quote:
Originally Posted by kyuss275
Buttons poll list doesn't make sense. His list is all d-men. Most of them will be late first to early 2nd picks. Just because they have not drafted a d man in a while, doesnt mean they have to take one at 19.
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Plus, the fact that they haven't drafted a d-man in a long time shows that they are truly focused on drafting the BPA when their spot in the draft comes up.
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09-20-2020, 08:15 PM
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#755
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Franchise Player
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My Personal Tiers for Draft 2020
Tier One
Alexis Lafreničre
Tier Two
Quinton Byfield
Tim Stützle
Tier Three
Cole Perfetti
Lucas Raymond
Jamie Drysdale
Alexander Holtz
Marco Rossi
Yaroslav Askarov
Anton Lundell
Tier Four
Jake Sanderson (could be tier 3)
Dawson Mercer
Braden Schneider
Jack Quinn
Kaiden Guhle
Seth Jarvis
Hendix Lapierre
Dylan Holloway
Rodion Amirov
Connor Zary
Tier Five
Lucas Reichel
Jacob Perreault
Ridly Greig
John-Jason Peterka
Mavrik Bourque
Justin Barron
Noel Gunler
William Wallinder
Brendan Brisson
Marat Khusnutdinov
Jan Myšák
Notable 2nd Round
Jake Neighbours
Shakir Mukhamadullin
Helge Grans
Tyson Foerster
Yan Kuznetsov
Ozzy Wiesblatt
Alex Cotton
Others Have Come up in Conversation
Jean-Luc Foudy
Jan Bednar
Jack Finley
Dmitri Zlodeyev
Tristen Robins
This is how I currently see the tiers playing out, and the value of trading into a certain spot. I am in no way an expert, and this is roughly based on how I hear other people talking.
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09-20-2020, 08:21 PM
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#756
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Apr 2014
Location: Indiana
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I think that order is off, but the tiers look pretty good.
I would swap Lundell and Quinn. I don't think Guhle and Lapierre are very good, but a lot of people seem to have them around there. Lucas Raymond is a bit of a wild card.
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09-20-2020, 08:21 PM
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#757
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First round-bust
Join Date: Feb 2015
Location: speculating about AHL players
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Lapierre could be anywhere honestly. Biggest draft question mark since Kylington.
Personally I would have Jarvis in tier 3.
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09-20-2020, 08:25 PM
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#758
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Jun 2011
Location: Calgary
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Lime is pretty close .
Personally tiers 4 and 5 are the same. Jarvis and Quinn should be 3. Thats about all I got to expand on that list.
After Askarov, I think the whole thing goes right off the conventional thinking rails. We are gonna see some crazy "deep pulls".
Like Justin Barron could resume his top tier stats and go top 10. Its gonna be a great draft but a wackey one.
Last edited by dammage79; 09-20-2020 at 08:29 PM.
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09-20-2020, 08:46 PM
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#759
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Jun 2013
Location: Calgary
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Quote:
Originally Posted by FlamesAddiction
Has anyone organized the 1st round into tiers yet? I am interested to see what it looks like.
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I'll take a stab, everybody can weigh in:
Tier1:Lafreniere/Byfield/Stutzle
Tier2:Rossi/Raymond/Drysdale/Perfetti/Askarov
Tier3:Holtz/Lundell
Tier4: Sanderson/Jarvis/Mercer
Tier5: Quinn/Amirov/Holloway
Tier 6: Gunler/Schneider/Zary/Bourque/Guhle/Perrault/Lapierre/Foerster
Tier 7: Mysak/Grans/Wallinder/Brisson/Barron/Weisblatt/Poirier
Tier 8:Peterka/Reichel/Hirvonen/Kusnutdinov/Greig/Nybeck/Neighbors/Colangelo/Jurmo/Tuch/Mukhamadullin/Viro/Dufour
Just my opinion.
Edit: My apologies, I wasn't aware of HL's list-must've posted as I was typing...
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09-20-2020, 09:20 PM
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#760
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Franchise Player
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Sanderson could be tier 3...I think he could be the top dman that goes. Was listening to a podcast today and who described it as do you want Ryan McDonough (Sanderson) or Kevin Shattekirk (Drysdale)
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