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Old 10-29-2018, 09:34 PM   #161
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What a damn dip this has been. Literally losing 2% of my portfolio daily.
I feel your pain. Everything has been red lately for me, except for AMRN. The only thing keeping my overall portfolio green. I'm hedging a big bet that it'll sky rocket. I will know more Thursday morning after the call...

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Old 10-30-2018, 07:59 AM   #162
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Never fun to see the market drop a lot, but we've been spoiled these last 9 years. Back to reality.
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Old 11-03-2018, 11:16 AM   #163
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Anyone planning any moves before the election on Tuesday? It's going to be a whippy reaction either way. If the dems wins anything I think it will drop, then bounce, then dip, then recover, then continue lower. Yep. Book that. Drop, bounce, drop, dip, down.
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Old 11-05-2018, 03:44 PM   #164
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This is kind of cool and terrifying...


https://www.thealgolab.com/home1.html


This seems to be the way things are going. Guy's from Calgary too. Lots of smarty pants traders here.
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Old 11-05-2018, 04:22 PM   #165
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This is kind of cool and terrifying...


https://www.thealgolab.com/home1.html


This seems to be the way things are going. Guy's from Calgary too. Lots of smarty pants traders here.
Don't know how legit this is, it seems to good to be true, but anyways it seems like it would be a nightmare come tax time.
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Old 11-05-2018, 04:35 PM   #166
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Don't know how legit this is, it seems to good to be true, but anyways it seems like it would be a nightmare come tax time.

I don't think the returns are out of line at all. The equity graph looks realistic and similar to other algorithm results. The problem with algorithmic trading is executing the trades needed to achieve the results. The interesting part of this one is they do the trades for you through your own account and only hold 20 positions at any time. Other algorithms I've seen produce better results but require hundred of trades a day.



I suspect your brokerage statement would satisfy your accountant but it would definitely be income. No tfsa trading here.
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Old 11-05-2018, 04:45 PM   #167
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My favorite is the backtest (which is glorious, of course). You never see the iterations that fared poorly. These things are amusing though, because if you really had an easy way to crush the market there’s no way you run radio ads and pile people in to destroy your advantage.
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I just opened an investing account with my bank, and I plan on contributing a good chunk of my monthly income into some ETF's. I think they make the most sense for me, just because I'm not a financial pro by any means, and I'm just looking for long term saving without much risk.

I'm just wondering how to diversify these? From what I've seen, there's some pretty good ones that return ~ 10%, but these have been mostly technology and S&P 500 composed.

What about other industries, like robotics, energy, and water?

I haven't found anything great in those categories, and wonder why I would invest in them if they don't offer the same returns as the tech oriented ones that I've discovered? I understand though that the future for these is probably pretty bright.

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Old 12-07-2018, 08:37 AM   #170
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Canadian Couch Potato offers some basic suggestions for passive plans using three ETFs:

https://cdn.canadiancouchpotato.com/...-ETFs-2017.pdf
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You can pretty much Google any information you want about ETF's. Here's a site with the robotics/AI etf's...


https://etfdb.com/themes/artificial-intelligence-etfs/


Here's one for water...


https://www.thebalance.com/top-water...r-2018-4171842


I feel like maybe you're jumping in at a bit of a perilous time. The market looks much different now than any time in the last 6 years. Diversification is not going to save you in today's market. By definition your US stock portfolio is diversified when you own the S&P. What you're trying to do by buying other stock sector etf's is pick winners. When the S&P goes down it typically drags other sectors with it. Diversifying from stocks means bond etf's, gold to some extent and inverse etf's though you can't own those for very long without losing time value. If you're planning to ride out large fluctuations and you want to try to pick winners, it may be beneficial to look into what really happens when the market goes down. It's also super important to plan your losses, know when you've been proven wrong. A long time frame and diversification typically doesn't save you from your inherent bad trading psychology.
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I just opened an investing account with my bank, and I plan on contributing a good chunk of my monthly income into some ETF's. I think they make the most sense for me, just because I'm not a financial pro by any means, and I'm just looking for long term saving without much risk.

I'm just wondering how to diversify these? From what I've seen, there's some pretty good ones that return ~ 10%, but these have been mostly technology and S&P 500 composed.

What about other industries, like robotics, energy, and water?

I haven't found anything great in those categories, and wonder why I would invest in them if they don't offer the same returns as the tech oriented ones that I've discovered? I understand though that the future for these is probably pretty bright.
Past performance isn't a great thing to go by for industry ETFs, as it sometimes means that specific industry is in a bubble.

Financial and homebuilder ETFs had great recent performance at the end of 2007, for example.

If you're picking ETFs, I think going with broad ones is a good choice. SPY for the US, and VCE for Canada. (I use VCE because it has lower fees than something like XIC).

If you put your money into a 50/50 mix of those two, I think its very likely you'd outperform something like 80% or more of investors with almost no work. You could add an international ETF at some point as well.
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