Yeah man. Not trying to single out Idaho, but it's just trippy to be standing in line at the gas station and buddy in front of me is packing heat, right there on his hip. I mean, I guess I'm used to seeing cops with their guns on their hips, but George from accounting is in there to buy a pack of cigs and he's got his gun, just in case? Big giant shiny looking Cougar Magnum from the Goldeneye video game. (Ok, I don't actually know what kind of gun it was, just that it was a big ass revolver that looked like it would take the head off of a cow)
Just so weird to see in real life in broad daylight at the gas station. Dorky white guy in blue jeans, with a shiny revolver hanging off his hip.
Besides the weirdness of that being normal for Americans, I wonder what was going to stop someone from just snatching it out of the holster and running off with it? I mean, do you chase a guy who just stole your gun? He's got the f-ing gun now. You don't really have much say.
I subscribed to r/EDC, an every day carry subreddit. Most threads there are guys who show off a photo of what they normally carry to work.
I mostly subbed to see what kind of multitools various trades people carry, but It’s really shocking to see that every second photo involves a handgun as the OP’s EDC
‘Murcia ... where you need to carry a handgun to feel safe
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I subscribed to r/EDC, an every day carry subreddit. Most threads there are guys who show off a photo of what they normally carry to work.
I mostly subbed to see what kind of multitools various trades people carry, but It’s really shocking to see that every second photo involves a handgun as the OP’s EDC
‘Murcia ... where you need to carry a handgun to feel safe
EDC has a different meaning down in the states compared to what people understand around here...
ironically, Muricans probably think the same thing, "Why are these people keep posting pictures of tools?! i wanna see more GUNS dammit..."
Classic, but sadly true
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I don’t know how you go about tackling that problem. It’s so deep rooted in their society and it’s now become a social norm almost. The only thing I can think of that might be semi effective is a massive buy back coupled with strict ownership/possession regulations. Your AR15 is worth $1000? We’ll give you $2000 to turn it in. I know it wouldn’t be a panacea and I’m guessing the psycho’s who do this sort of thing wouldn’t turn them in regardless. Whatever action is taken, there will be backlash and there likely will be more blood spilled. But serious action needs to be taken.
Gun control or buy back won’t make any appreciable difference in the short term. What it is though is a step down the long road of changing societal norms. Guns, gun culture, and violence culture need to be turned from acceptable and embraced to unacceptable and shunned. This will take generations if at all - it’s a similar process but much harder than smoking and seatbelts.
For smoking, one of the more effective steps (IMO) was removing it from tv and movies.
For guns, this would be similar to eliminating violent movies, video games, etc.
I don’t see it happening any time soon
Violent movies/video games have very little to do with mass shootings, the Chinese, Koreans and Japanese youth play these games up to 3 times more than Americans yet have 600 times less mass shootings.
It's the access to guns...period
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I agree. It’s the access to guns. It will be a fight but easy access and the attitudes that go along with the access, has to change. I work with U.S. contractors fairly often and these guys hate coming to Canada to work with us because they can’t bring their weapons. I used to engage them in debate but I’ve learned to keep my mouth shut about their guns. They do not take kindly to being challenged on this issue.
I agree. It’s the access to guns. It will be a fight but easy access and the attitudes that go along with the access, has to change. I work with U.S. contractors fairly often and these guys hate coming to Canada to work with us because they can’t bring their weapons. I used to engage them in debate but I’ve learned to keep my mouth shut about their guns. They do not take kindly to being challenged on this issue.
Thats just because they're grumpy that they cant shup you up....with their guns!
Are they aware that in Canada if safety issues arise we simply call the Police? And they show up?
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While access is a problem, the desire for guns is where I was comparing with cigarettes. They made it less glamorous and less desirable to have cigs, so access to them became a moot point.
The US has a huge fixation with guns being must-have items, and movies and video games have added to that stigma. Yes they exist in other countries too, but it is like promoting alcohol to an alcoholic... the exact same advertisements have less appeal and effect for different people with different tastes and traits. For Americans with an already pre-existing bias to desiring guns, anything that makes them more appealing is extra effective.
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I should also mention that so many of these guys are ex-military. They have protected their country and its citizens. Sometimes for decades. How do we tell them that they are part of the problem?
While access is a problem, the desire for guns is where I was comparing with cigarettes. They made it less glamorous and less desirable to have cigs, so access to them became a moot point.
The US has a huge fixation with guns being must-have items, and movies and video games have added to that stigma. Yes they exist in other countries too, but it is like promoting alcohol to an alcoholic... the exact same advertisements have less appeal and effect for different people with different tastes and traits. For Americans with an already pre-existing bias to desiring guns, anything that makes them more appealing is extra effective.
to be fair though, vaping has taken off with the kids and there's virtually none of that on TVs or movies that i have seen.
Murica's obsession with guns is what causes their inclusion in movies, not the other way around imo.
Thats just because they're grumpy that they cant shup you up....with their guns!
Are they aware that in Canada if safety issues arise we simply call the Police? And they show up?
And that’s also true there. What percentage of shooters in the States have been stopped by ordinary citizens with guns versus the police? It’s a fantasy that some random with a gun will stop a mass shooting.