01-14-2021, 11:04 AM
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#3601
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Franchise Player
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Originally Posted by flambers
Jays definitely need to add to their roster if they want to show progression.
Their outfield is lacking, they don't have a 3rd baseman and they require another top end pitcher.
I personally would have liked both of these to be completed.
Francisco Lindor, Carlos Carrasco definitely would have helped,
Ha-Seong Kim obviously would have helped
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Yes, they should definitely add, but it doesn't have to be a $100-200+ million contract type of player.
Lindor and Carrasco would have been great....for 2021. After that though Lindor would struggle to provide value for his contract, or else he and all the assets given up to get him would be gone into thin air.
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01-14-2021, 02:09 PM
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#3602
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I believe in the Jays.
Join Date: Mar 2006
Location: Kitsilano
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I still feel like trade is the best route for this team, the prospect cabinet is full of attractive pieces, and one or two significant trades would not make that significant a dent in the pool of talent.
Bryants value is going to be somewhat suppressed because of his 30 bad games last year but the guy is a stud and should be the Jays top target. The Cubs and Red Sox are stripping down their rosters and the Jays should be all over this.
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01-15-2021, 08:17 AM
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#3603
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Powerplay Quarterback
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Looks like Lemahieu is heading back to the Yankees. It's going to be around 5 years @ $90m. He is the 1st big name I am disappointed we missed out on, but I think he was always going back to NY. Best hitter available
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01-15-2021, 08:30 AM
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#3604
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Scoring Winger
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4-5 days ago it was reported Lemahieu was upset with the Yankees and told his agents to re engage other teams. Today he has a deal
Looks like the Jays were just leverage.
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01-15-2021, 08:41 AM
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#3606
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Scoring Winger
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Quote:
Originally Posted by flambers
Jays current management inherited some really key pieces in this organization.
They now need to find a way to secure top players to take them to the next level
So far, they have been unable to make the signings and or trade this off-season.
Off-season isn't over yet, however the Jays have been a none factor so far.
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Who do you consider key pieces? Outside of Vlad Jr this teams has been built almost entirely by the current management. Bichette, Biggio, Hernandez, Pearson, LGJ, Ryu were all either drafted, or signed, by the current management team.
I agree they need help to take the next step but I don't think that means you ignore the success they've had in getting here.
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01-15-2021, 08:55 AM
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#3608
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Powerplay Quarterback
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The Jays signed a big free agent today. Manuel Beltre, sounds like he was the top bat in this year's international free agent pool.
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01-15-2021, 08:55 AM
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#3609
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Mar 2011
Location: Toronto
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Roof-Daddy
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What was it? The tweet got deleted.
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01-15-2021, 09:02 AM
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#3610
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Franchise Player
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Karl
What was it? The tweet got deleted.
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That's weird, sorry.
The Jays just finally officially announced that they signed international free agent Manuel Beltre.
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01-15-2021, 09:15 AM
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#3611
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Aug 2002
Location: Calgary
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Quote:
Originally Posted by cross16
Who do you consider key pieces? Outside of Vlad Jr this teams has been built almost entirely by the current management. Bichette, Biggio, Hernandez, Pearson, LGJ, Ryu were all either drafted, or signed, by the current management team.
I agree they need help to take the next step but I don't think that means you ignore the success they've had in getting here.
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Vlad Jr, Danny Jansen, Rowdy Tellez are from the previous group.
I thought the previous management also signed Bichette and Baggio.
Not convinced the current GM will acquire the assets they need to make them a contender.....
Of course no one wants to them make horrible trades or agree to bad contracts.
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01-15-2021, 10:04 AM
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#3612
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Sep 2005
Location: Toronto, Ontario
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With Lamahieu I thought the four year $90MM contract is really reasonable. When it came out earlier this week that he was upset at the Yanks, that it was a bargaining ploy by the agent for leverage, and certainly now it appears to be. But the price was cheaper than I would have thought, with a good term. Now with money drying up with the past couple signings there are less team competition so there’s probably going to be some additional signings happening over the next couple weeks. Jays better get someone with all this talk.
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01-15-2021, 10:05 AM
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#3613
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Commie Referee
Join Date: Oct 2002
Location: Small town, B.C.
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01-15-2021, 10:13 AM
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#3614
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Commie Referee
Join Date: Oct 2002
Location: Small town, B.C.
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01-15-2021, 10:27 AM
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#3615
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Franchise Player
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Bauer, Springer, Realmuto.
Are we gonna get any of these three?
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01-15-2021, 11:06 AM
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#3616
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Truculent!
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Roof-Daddy
Bauer, Springer, Realmuto.
Are we gonna get any of these three?
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Nope.
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01-15-2021, 11:50 AM
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#3617
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Sep 2005
Location: Toronto, Ontario
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I think they will. Realmuto has been silent. I’d want him but I have no clue. Springer seems the most likely but it seems he’s waiting for the Mets to give more money. Bauer is playing the market. He’s the only pitcher and he’ll wait until someone matches his price but I don’t think it’ll be the Jays. The Jays management gets tired of loud players.
Unfortunately I think Springer will get overpaid and will be a Jay if the Mets don’t meet his price.
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01-15-2021, 12:04 PM
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#3618
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Aug 2002
Location: Calgary
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Roof-Daddy
Bauer, Springer, Realmuto.
Are we gonna get any of these three?
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Fingers crossed Springer will choose to sign with the Jays.
Not sure how likely that is however....
I would guess no to the other two
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01-15-2021, 12:34 PM
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#3619
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Powerplay Quarterback
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I really like Bauer, and I don't really get the knock on his personality. He's honest, he does like to market himself and be in the spotlight, but I don't see those things as bad. He is probably one of my favorite players in baseball right now. I think the Jays should be all in on him.
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01-15-2021, 01:50 PM
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#3620
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Sep 2005
Location: Toronto, Ontario
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I guess the Bauer personality can be polarizing. All of us have worked with people who say me and I to everything. It’s all about them. To some personalities it’s nothing but to some it can be super annoying. I’m on the side that it comes across as their show and everyone else is in it. Right or wrong. Others have a thicker skin. When Stroman was doing more or less it rubbed a lot of us the wrong way. Not from a baseball traditional standpoint because I don’t care. But from a human standpoint that he should just shut up and pitch. Keep the emotion but quit the me me me. Bauer I feel the same way.
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