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Old 02-16-2021, 05:24 PM   #661
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Mcknight is offering 50% as well. I suspect all the associations agreed on this amount
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Old 02-16-2021, 05:26 PM   #662
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Mcknight is offering 50% as well. I suspect all the associations agreed on this amount
Yeah it seems a little BS to me, I send an email our association asking for some transparency & finacial information to justify the 50%.

I got an email back from out paid coach mentor (who "worked" all through) justifying the amount..........

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Old 02-19-2021, 05:00 AM   #663
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Cochrane hasn't processed the refunds yet, but in preliminary communications indicated that it would be less than a simple proration of cost/icetimes. They cited upfront costs, Eval costs and Hockey Alberta and Hockey Canada Fees as the reasons.
I have to give credit where credit is due. Cochrane came through with a 70% refund, which seems quite a bit better than most. I wondered if it might be less than 50% since we hire outside evaluators for all ages Novice and up.
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Old 02-19-2021, 01:32 PM   #664
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Cochrane hasn't processed the refunds yet, but in preliminary communications indicated that it would be less than a simple proration of cost/icetimes. They cited upfront costs, Eval costs and Hockey Alberta and Hockey Canada Fees as the reasons.
Has anyone heard what Hockey Alberta is doing with the millions and millions collected from the WJC 50/50 money? Returning the Hockey Alberta portion of fee back to local minor hockey organizations should be at the top of the list.

I'm no longer involved in minor hockey, but from what I've heard for most hockey associations and sports organizations in general, 50% seems to be the going refund rate. This is what our curling club has done, with many people just donating their refund back to the club.
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Old 02-19-2021, 08:01 PM   #665
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Hockey Alberta fee was something like $27 per player and it mostly pays for salary positions and training programs for coaches. So I can understand why they could only refund a portion of their fee.

From what I understand the money from the world juniors 50-50 had rules around what it could be used for.

I can understand why some are upset about the association level refunds but you have to remember that these associations are volunteer run and they aren't banking profits. Plus the first two weeks of the season are the most expensive with equipment costs, evaluation costs, etc. Plus year long salaries for ice allocators or registrars depending on the size of your association and they got paid all year. During the shut downs they weren't sitting around either as there was plans to come back a few times and that required work from those behind the scenes to schedule ice, remake teams, plan for restrictions and other stuff like that. So I can understand why we only played a third of the season but paid around half.
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PeeWee AA (U13) moving to quadrant system...

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Old 03-02-2021, 01:57 PM   #667
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I'm assuming it will be at the AA level? I don't believe there is a U13AAA model for Alberta. Unless they plan to only play within Calgary because there would be no other teams to paly in Alberta.
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Oh wow! I wonder how many AA teams each quadrant association will have?
I think most associations only had 1 AA team this year.
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Pretty sure it is AA only... In the comments, someone said that it is 3 per quadrant (which they thought was too many) which would be 12 teams. Checking the Hockey Calgary website, there were 14 AA teams this past year.
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PeeWee AA (U13) moving to quadrant system...

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This just seems like a money grab
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This just seems like a money grab
Competing with HSL. Hard to keep elite kids in U13.
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Hard to keep elite kids in U13.
This is the most ridiculous idea around in my mind. "Elite" doesn't exist at that age, athletic development isn't linear.
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This is the most ridiculous idea around in my mind. "Elite" doesn't exist at that age, athletic development isn't linear.
Agreed 100%. But part of the issue is these independent 'leagues' have sprung up and are taking kids from the Hockey Alberta stream. When you have Atom teams marketing themselves as AAA the kids (and parents) buy into it. I think this is also part of the reason sports schools have really taken off - it givens parents another avenue to send their kids when they don't make the traditional elite teams. When my kids played we had three very good goalies in our system, all the same age. Obviously at two goalies per team one of them was not going to be on the top team. As soon as they hit bantam they all tried out for quadrant. One made the AAA bantam team, the other two were cut and immediately transferred to schools rather than go back to community. All three stayed in those respective streams for the rest of minor hockey and were drafted to the WHL (only one stuck with his team). Point being parents see these as viable alternatives and won't hesitate to yank their kids if they think it will get them ahead. Like it or not Hockey Calgary probably felt like they needed to do this to remain competitive.
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