Official WWE/ECW/WCW/TNA talk, or whatever v2

[CaptainCrunch]

Originally Posted by DAN0383

Ashley Massaro dead at 39.
https://www.tmz.com/2019/05/16/ashle...ar-dead-at-39/

Way too young.



I remember her, she had this kind of punk fusion look going.



She was also on Survivor.


She was part of the class action lawsuit against the WWE, and supposedly she was sexually assaulted during a WWE tour but the WWE convinced her to keep it quiet.


There were some rumors floating around her post WWE.



Again, way too young to die.


RIP

[CaptainCrunch]

https://twitter.com/user/status/1128795589678895104


Sad

[rubecube]

Originally Posted by d_phaneuf

Ya my hope is that this is just the double or nothing price and once the ppvs come in post the AEW weekly show start the price lowers big time

That price point just isnt a model anymore

Ufc is on espn+ in the states
Dazn is picking up a ton of boxing, espn too
Wwe with the network

DAZN also has MLW which is slowly garnering more and more praise. Supposedly Teddy Hart has finally gotten his #### together and it's a really enjoyable product. I've yet to check it out but it's on my list.

[CaptainCrunch]

Sadly it sounds like Ashley Massaro killed herself

[rubecube]

Well alright then.

https://twitter.com/user/status/1129503400100605957

[Julio]

Originally Posted by rubecube

DAZN also has MLW which is slowly garnering more and more praise. Supposedly Teddy Hart has finally gotten his #### together and it's a really enjoyable product. I've yet to check it out but it's on my list.

You can also watch MLW on YouTube a few days after it's up on DAZN. There is a New Hart Foundation, with Teddy, Harry Smith and Brian Pillman's son.

[CaptainCrunch]

Originally Posted by rubecube

Well alright then.

https://twitter.com/user/status/1129503400100605957

Nia Jax is terrible in every way. She's sloppy and dangerous in the ring (Becky Lynch, Alexa Bliss). She's boring in the ring, her mic work is atrocious. It pays to be related to the Rock.


When her and Tamina were rolling as a tag team they were the worlds most boring tag team.


She needs an exceptional wrestler to carry her to a decent match.

[CaptainCrunch]

Just to be consistant, I'm unsure if I'm going to watch tomorrow's Money in the Bank PPV.


But I might as well throw out some predictions


Tony Nese (c) vs. Ariya Daivari


I can't see them taking the belt off of Nese, he's been on a star turn. Daivari is a great heel and ready to take the next step but not this day

Tony Nese


Daniel Bryan & Rowan vs. The Usos (Kickoff Show)

The fact that this is on the kickoff show, kind of illustrates how bad tag team wrestling is right now. The USO's are now the mean girls of the division with their superhot prank and back shaving skits.

I'll take Bryan and Rowan



United States Championship: Samoa Joe (c) vs. Rey Mysterio

Samoa Joe has been a solid champion, and it would be stupid to take the belt off of him. I stopped caring about Rey years ago. If they can have Joe murder Rey's son it would make it a 5 star match no matter what

Samoa Joe retains


Roman Reigns vs. Elias


I'm happy that Roman beat cancer and I'm glad he's back. But we're back to Super Reigns again, and the last good things about Eliass have been buried.

Roman Reigns


The Miz vs. Shane McMahon (Steel Cage Match)

I've liked Miz in the face role. Frankly I'm sick of the pudgy son of the owner regularly beating up wrestlers. I mean I get that fans love Shane because he's a spot monkey who does big spots, but losing to Shane just buries Miz, and I don't want to see a 40 some executive beating up a wrestler.

Shane McMahon ends the feud, buries Miz and moves on to feud with Reigns


Nikki Cross vs. Bayley vs. Natalya vs. Naomi vs. Carmella vs. Dana Brooke vs. Mandy Rose vs. Ember Moon (Women's Money in the Bank)

Winning the MITB is a major elevation for a wrestler on the verge. Just looking at this lineup, its amazing how weak the Woman's division has gone with Bliss, Banks and Rousey injured or not available.



Nikki Cross is a late addition, and I loved her in NXT but she's been pretty meh on the main roster. It wold have been nice to see any of the former members of the Riot Squad in this, but they've been nowhere to be seen since the superstar shuffle. I expect they'll let Mandy heel win this somehow and push her to the moon.

Mandy Rose


Finn Balor vs. Sami Zayn vs. Baron Corbin vs. Drew McIntyre vs. Ricochet vs. Randy Orton vs. Andrade vs. Ali (Men's Money in the Bank)

This should be a good match. Right now to me the ones that could most benefit from winning are Andrade and Zayn. Chances are the WWE will resist the temptation to do the right thing and do the old thing and give the briefcase to Orton or Drew.


I'm going to predict that they get this right, Zayn will win.


Raw Women's Championship: Becky Lynch (c) vs. Lacey Evans

With two woman's title matches featuring Becky, I can guarantee you that she'll lose one. Evan's has kind of found her stride since they went from her catwalking to doing what she does best which is to be a southern heel. But I think the WWE is going to want to established woman's champions and make Evan's wait

SmackDown Women's Championship: Becky Lynch (c) vs. Charlotte Flair


I am so sick of this freaking matchup. The WWE has failed to elevate woman to the upper card over the last wild and because of that and again the departure of Rousey, the injury to Bliss, and the vacation of Banks has left a huge hole in the division, we're stuck with the same old thing. The WWE seems to like to put the belt on Charlotte, so here we go again. Boring

Charlotte


WWE Championship: Kofi Kingston (c) vs. Kevin Owens

Without the rest of New Day at his side, I expect that the WWE won't have faith in continuing the Kofi push. I'm a big fan of Kevin Owens, but not his confusing booking since he got back. But I expect the belt will go around his waist

Kevin Owens


Universal Championship: Seth Rollins (c) vs. AJ Styles

Two great workers and should be the match of the night, I respect AJ a lot, but I really don't think at his age and with his new contract that the WWE is going to put the belt on him.

Seth Rollins


After the match we see the return of an Angry Brock Lesnar to set up a a feud with Seth.

[CaptainCrunch]

Well this PPV is a bust of bad booking and meh matches


They had a chance to elevate someone in the Woman's division that's really weak right now. Instead after a pretty meh MITB match they put the briefcase on Bayley who's so stale and boring now that I just can't seem to care.



Then Joe who's been really good as a Champ gets his face busted by a 80 year old Rey who takes the belt. I'm wondering if they're setting up Rey's son to go over Joe


Then Shane the 50 year old pudgy Grey Haired middle manager goes over Miz who's actually been really good in a face role, because why?


God the booking is stupid and the matches have been uninspiring.

[mile]

not watching mitb, but saw this tweet and laughed

https://twitter.com/user/status/1130310678697435136

[Blaster86]

Originally Posted by mile

not watching mitb, but saw this tweet and laughed

https://twitter.com/user/status/1130310678697435136

I love Jericho, but he's currently in line for a IWGP title shot over just about anyone else and will probably get his win back vs Omega next week. He's as big an issue as Lesnar in this respect.

[CaptainCrunch]

Yeah, I kind of gave up after my last post. However I did note that Brock Lesnar won Money in the bank. Becky beat Evans, then lost to Charlotte who lost to Bayley after she cashed in the brief case.


I just can't spend 5 hours on a PPV anymore.

[CaptainCrunch]

So the reason why the commentators were shocked at the end of the Joe Mysterio match was because it was decided to end the match early because of the amount of blood that Joe was leaking.


That was not the ending and the ref was counting no matter what.


I miss the days of crimson masks.

[d_phaneuf]

I went through it this morning, skipping on half speed a few of the matches that I read werent great

Overall I think it was really good, their best ppv in a long time

The aj vs seth match is must watch for anyone

Bayleys cash in was great, crowd popped loud too

The brock thing goes two way for me, if he uses it for the jeddah show its dumb. But if he treats it like a heel and fakes some cash ins, then eventually loses? Could be great

[d_phaneuf]

Also if nick Foley isnt introducing a new 24/7 hardcore title someone needs to be fired

The stuff they could do with that is so easy

Middle of random days cut into a match somewhere, it can pop up on youtube, twitter, periscope, ig live, even have the network cut in live

[CaptainCrunch]

I don't think that they can really do a hardcore belt because of the restrictions that are placed on WWE TV, no blood no head shots etc.


The rumor is that this is going to be a legends belt and the first title match will be Goldberg and the Undertaker.

[KelVarnsen]

I can’t stand The Iconics

[KelVarnsen]

[CaptainCrunch]

I'm assuming you're talking about that 24/7 champion.


I remember back in the day (Don't call me gramps) when the hardcore title was defended every where every time, and they had pins happening in malls and airports and grocery stores, it was funny, and at one point Hurricane Helms came out on stage and Might Molly double crossed him and wanged him with a frying pan to win the title.


At that time it was sometimes hilarious and creative. I think this is just an attempt at a running joke.


Honestly I fell asleep just before the Funhouse, and woke up to see the end of of the tag team main event.


The product is just that bad now.

[CaptainCrunch]

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