View Poll Results: When will the ring road be completed?
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1-3 years
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Never
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05-28-2020, 04:04 PM
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#3281
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Nov 2009
Location: Calgary
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Have not noticed that. My car is pretty low and already a fairly bumpy ride but I haven't noticed it to be worse than the other legs.
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06-01-2020, 10:39 AM
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#3282
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CP Gamemaster
Join Date: Feb 2010
Location: The Gary
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I stopped by the pedestrian bridge near Anderson Road on a bike ride to see how it looked in person. I noticed a letter attached to the fence asking for people to complain about it:
(Sorry about the angles, it was pretty windy)
From what I could tell on the pathway, about three houses have the wall blocking their view of the mountains, and a couple have to look under the bridge to see the mountains.
As for the comment in the letter that the bridge is "higher and larger than originally discussed so emergency vehicles can pass over" sounds like nonsense to me. The height difference for the larger bridge girders wouldn't be significant enough to be noticeable to any regular person. A pathway on a bridge is already about 4 meters wide which is more than enough to handle a vehicle's width, so I doubt they made it wider over the highway. They would only need to widen the corner near the houses for the turning radius of an ambulance (I can't see a fire truck is going up there).
I'm not sure what to make of the comments that make it sound like every change needs to be run by them but you can't please everyone. I have to guess that it's mostly a couple people pretending to speak for many others.
Here's a picture showing the entire bridge:
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06-01-2020, 11:26 AM
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#3283
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Franchise Player
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The second picture really changes the perspective of the bridge vs. what was shown on the news, it looks much less imposing from that angle.
Two items of interest to me from that letter:
1. nobody 'owns' a view so how can it be 'stolen'? Yeah it sucks to lose yours but it's not the first time and it doesn't make these people special. How many home owners/condo owners lost their sweet view when a building went up next door or down the street? Happens all the time.
2. would be interested to see pictures of what was originally proposed vs the final design. Maybe this group could do that since they clearly remember ho much it has changed and surely someone took pictures at the open houses.
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06-01-2020, 11:37 AM
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#3284
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Nov 2009
Location: Calgary
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Mazrim
As for the comment in the letter that the bridge is "higher and larger than originally discussed so emergency vehicles can pass over" sounds like nonsense to me.
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Yeah that makes absolutely zero sense.
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06-01-2020, 11:39 AM
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#3285
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Feb 2006
Location: Calgary
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Now that I know it's a pedestrian bridge, and from a different angle, it changes my viewpoint of it. Yah, it's not ideal, but you Woodbine guys knew what you were buying into. They were banking on Stoney never getting built there.
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06-01-2020, 12:01 PM
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#3286
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First Line Centre
Join Date: Aug 2009
Location: Sector 7G
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Here is one from the other side. I’ll post another in a second since I can only add one per post in Tapatalk
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06-01-2020, 12:02 PM
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#3287
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First Line Centre
Join Date: Aug 2009
Location: Sector 7G
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06-01-2020, 12:02 PM
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#3288
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First Line Centre
Join Date: Aug 2009
Location: Sector 7G
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Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
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06-01-2020, 12:06 PM
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#3289
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CP Gamemaster
Join Date: Feb 2010
Location: The Gary
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Thanks for taking those! I completely forgot when I was out there. Once the scaffolding is off the corner, it's going to be easy to see under the bridge.
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06-01-2020, 12:14 PM
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#3290
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Franchise Player
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I would have just ripped the note down and thrown it in the trash.
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06-01-2020, 12:19 PM
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#3291
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Scoring Winger
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NIMBYs gonna NIMBY.
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06-01-2020, 12:22 PM
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#3292
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Join Date: Feb 2006
Location: Calgary, AB
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Quote:
Originally Posted by BurningYears
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What are they complaining about? Looks like they'll still have a view of the mountains to me.
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06-01-2020, 12:35 PM
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#3294
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Join Date: Aug 2012
Location: Seattle, WA
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Lubicon
The second picture really changes the perspective of the bridge vs. what was shown on the news, it looks much less imposing from that angle.
Two items of interest to me from that letter:
1. nobody 'owns' a view so how can it be 'stolen'? Yeah it sucks to lose yours but it's not the first time and it doesn't make these people special. How many home owners/condo owners lost their sweet view when a building went up next door or down the street? Happens all the time.
2. would be interested to see pictures of what was originally proposed vs the final design. Maybe this group could do that since they clearly remember ho much it has changed and surely someone took pictures at the open houses.
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You really want to piss someone off? Take away something they paid nothing for, yet value immensely.
That's what happened here. They had a nice view and knew it would be impacted by the project. They then believed they could live with those impacts the way that the project represented it in the renderings, open houses etc. It sounds like there was a design change from what was proposed that has them all hot and bothered.
The property value thing is a complete red herring.
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06-01-2020, 12:46 PM
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#3295
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Nov 2009
Location: Calgary
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I've still seen no evidence of the change or been able to pinpoint exactly what structure they thought was going to go there before. Probably because no definitive design could have been done until the contract was signed.
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06-01-2020, 12:56 PM
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#3296
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First Line Centre
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Yeah I'm curious about that as well.
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the highway has been moved 50 metres closer to their home and 10 metres higher than what they expected
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Are they just arbitrarily assigning 50 metres as a measurement for something they saw from a mock up or what are they basing their "expectations" on.
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06-01-2020, 01:34 PM
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#3297
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First Line Centre
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I wonder what the purpose of that letter is.....to make sure their voices get heard? Nothing will change, it's already complete for the initial stages, and for the legal part I don't think they'd have any case as someone mentioned above you can't own a view, so just not sure what the point of it is.
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06-01-2020, 02:29 PM
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#3298
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Nov 2009
Location: Calgary
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Old Yeller
Are they just arbitrarily assigning 50 metres as a measurement for something they saw from a mock up or what are they basing their "expectations" on.
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They are correct in the highway being closer than the very first set of plans. The Anderson Rd interchange has changed from what were the somewhat long-standing conceptual plans: a new EB-NB loop ramp has been added which pushes the NB-EB ramp from Stoney to Anderson outward and closer to Woodbine. Quantifying this distance at 50 metres is arbitrary but the plan did change, presumably because modelling showed higher utilization of the EB-NB movement because of that Costco or something.
2009 plan here
Current plan/build here
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06-01-2020, 03:25 PM
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#3299
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Not Taylor
Join Date: Dec 2009
Location: Calgary SW
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Fuzz
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LOL, nowhere near the same, but I've always wondered about this building beside Crowchild. Which came first - the building or the road? Anybody here ever been in one of those apartments?
https://goo.gl/maps/Xah1cjHgMt56wtzh9
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06-01-2020, 03:30 PM
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#3300
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#1 Goaltender
Join Date: Nov 2005
Location: the middle
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Fuzz
Meh, could be worse:
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MOVE YOUR GOL'DERN HOUSE, SON!
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