Ongoing General Automotive Thread 2.0

[Hemi-Cuda]

Originally Posted by DoubleF

I looked at it as well. It went to ####. The new AWD Corolla is far sexier than the Subarus. At around $34K starting, it's not bad at all. It's just the wait that sucks.

AWD is definitely a big improvement, but every review I've seen for the new Corollas mention how underpowered they feel. For only 2K more (MSRP) the Mazda 3 Turbo gives you almost 100 more HP and a better transmission. Toyota really needs something in-between the standard Corolla and the GR

[DoubleF]

Originally Posted by Hemi-Cuda

AWD is definitely a big improvement, but every review I've seen for the new Corollas mention how underpowered they feel. For only 2K more (MSRP) the Mazda 3 Turbo gives you almost 100 more HP and a better transmission. Toyota really needs something in-between the standard Corolla and the GR

Corolla resale is typically a little better than Mazda, no? I mean, I'm sure that in the end it balances out and it isn't a huge drop in favor of the Mazda and both are solid options. I also think that the Corolla repairs and concerns might be a wee shorter list than the Mazda, even if this is basically a new platform and design.

Also, I'm a little wary of some of the reviews out there at times. When they say things are underpowered, unless you're the type of person to whip the damn things around like crazy or freak out about the fact that you get close to the red line for a few seconds while merging or passing on the highway, it's honestly not a major issue. I know someone like this with a compact SUV. I'm like, just put it on sports mode for merging onto a highway. "No, it burns more gas". So... the option is to spend thousands of dollars more so that you don't have to do this? Yup.

But either way, I think the key concept is that both are better AWD than the Subaru options which sadly seemed to go to ####.

[81MC]

Current Gen Mazdas are the most attractive, nicely designed lineup out there (in terms of like, actually attainable).

[btimbit]

I didn't like the long droopy snout look of the front end of the Mazdas when I was looking. Like the hood is too long or something. Something about it looked disproportionate to my eye

[DoubleF]

Originally Posted by btimbit

I didn't like the long droopy snout look of the front end of the Mazdas when I was looking. Like the hood is too long or something. Something about it looked disproportionate to my eye

They reminded me a little bit of the boot and shoe look that many Infiniti vehicles had about a decade or two ago.

In person is not as bad as the renderings though.

[Sliver]

I like the current Mazda styles, too. Still worried about their rust, but that aside as it may or may not be a problem, they seem like a solid choice.

[DoubleF]

Originally Posted by undercoverbrother

#### used cars are expensive.

Anyone have a CP hook up for discounts?

I literally just noticed there's a sponsored sub forum for a car dealership on CP.

[btimbit]

Originally Posted by DoubleF

They reminded me a little bit of the boot and shoe look that many Infiniti vehicles had about a decade or two ago.

In person is not as bad as the renderings though.

Saw a bunch in person too, it's just not for me, I think they're goofy looking

[powderjunkie]

CX-5 is probably the least ugly Suburban Utility Vehicle ever made...except for the big fender liners

Originally Posted by DoubleF

Corolla resale is typically a little better than Mazda, no? I mean, I'm sure that in the end it balances out and it isn't a huge drop in favor of the Mazda and both are solid options. I also think that the Corolla repairs and concerns might be a wee shorter list than the Mazda, even if this is basically a new platform and design.

Also, I'm a little wary of some of the reviews out there at times. When they say things are underpowered, unless you're the type of person to whip the damn things around like crazy or freak out about the fact that you get close to the red line for a few seconds while merging or passing on the highway, it's honestly not a major issue. I know someone like this with a compact SUV. I'm like, just put it on sports mode for merging onto a highway. "No, it burns more gas". So... the option is to spend thousands of dollars more so that you don't have to do this? Yup.

But either way, I think the key concept is that both are better AWD than the Subaru options which sadly seemed to go to ####.

To the bolded, it's spend thousands of dollars more to use the equivalent of sport mode all the time.

[TorqueDog]

Originally Posted by powderjunkie

CX-5 is probably the least ugly Suburban Utility Vehicle ever made...except for the big fender liners

A what? Is that a thing now? It's a lifted wagon.

[Captaincanada80]

Originally Posted by undercoverbrother

#### used cars are expensive.

Anyone have a CP hook up for discounts?

If only we had a car guy as a sponsor on CP

Sent a PM with my contact info to help if I can

[undercoverbrother]

Originally Posted by DoubleF

I literally just noticed there's a sponsored sub forum for a car dealership on CP.

Yip I knew that, completely forgot, but he sent me a message

[Locke]

Originally Posted by Fuzz

Ya, it was just funny because the designer guy was saying how important it was to have that frame removed. I think he's going to lose that argument with the accountants.

The real power behind the vehicular throne!

[Fuzz]

Originally Posted by Locke

The real power behind the vehicular throne!

Yup, ruining everything great!

Consumers - "Why does everything look like trashy plastic?"
Accountants - "We saved 3/8th's of a cent on that knob!"

[jayswin]

Originally Posted by Captaincanada80

If only we had a car guy as a sponsor on CP

Sent a PM with my contact info to help if I can

I don't think most posters notice or go into the sponsored forum. I actually forgot it was there until you mentioned it, lol.

[Dion]

Originally Posted by jayswin

I don't think most posters notice or go into the sponsored forum. I actually forgot it was there until you mentioned it, lol.

I see his postings on the main page when I sign in.

[DoubleF]

Originally Posted by powderjunkie

CX-5 is probably the least ugly Suburban Utility Vehicle ever made...except for the big fender liners

To the bolded, it's spend thousands of dollars more to use the equivalent of sport mode all the time.

In your case, fair. But some people I know are dumb and complain that the fuel economy of the vehicle is worse, but that they don't have to rev it when merging on the highway. It literally goes to like 3-5K RPM for 10-20 seconds out of hundreds of hours of driving...

Originally Posted by TorqueDog

A what? Is that a thing now? It's a lifted wagon.

I didn't notice it the first time, but it's an amazing description. The amount of people who drive those things and have absolutely nothing to do with sports or physical activity is really damn high.

[cam_wmh]

Originally Posted by TorqueDog

A what? Is that a thing now? It's a lifted wagon.

TD, endear yourself to that new term. Endorse it, promote it. It's exactly what they are.

[Sliver]

Originally Posted by Sliver

Crap, I got sidetracked. I came to this thread to ask if anybody has a recommendation for an OBD2 dongle-type-thing that will bluetooth to shift lights or even just a good app for my phone that would give me shift lights from the phone screen while bluetoothed to the OBD2 port.

Basically, I don't like driving my car with paddles unless I have the music turned down otherwise I can't hear the RPMs. Problem is, I always have the music LoUd, hence why some shift lights would be great.

So I did solve this. I bought a Holley Sniper OBDII shift light. It's pretty slick and looks really clean installed. Obviously very easy to remove, too. I don't like junking up my car with a bunch of aftermarket BS.

[Fuzz]

Originally Posted by cam_wmh

TD, endear yourself to that new term. Endorse it, promote it. It's exactly what they are.

This is the only vehicle you can call a Suburban Utility Vehicle.

Spoiler!