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Old 02-16-2018, 10:36 PM   #121
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Pretty wild that he's entered the leadership race.
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Old 02-17-2018, 07:18 AM   #122
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I don’t live there and it has zero impact on me. I hope he wins, for no reason other than to see what happens. It would be hilarious!
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Old 02-17-2018, 08:16 AM   #123
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The implications for Ontario's economy actually do matter to Canada more broadly. From that perspective we're probably better off with whoever the Conservatives run there.
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Old 02-17-2018, 08:54 AM   #124
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Who ever has the best plan to fix the power problem should run there. Expensive energy is just like a tax on the economy except the gov doesn't get to provide services with the money.
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Old 02-17-2018, 12:52 PM   #125
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Old 02-18-2018, 09:47 AM   #126
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Also now revealed one of the accusers is good friends with one of the lead ctv reporters on the original story.
Ctv should have revealed that relationship in the original story.
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Old 02-18-2018, 12:04 PM   #127
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Having a trial by media is scary.
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Old 02-20-2018, 04:55 PM   #128
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New twist in PC civil war as Hillier accuses Patrick Brown of ‘crooked’ politics, calls for investigation

https://www.thestar.com/news/canada/...ick-brown.html

Hillier filed a complaint with Ontario’s Integrity Commissioner Tuesday, citing “deeply troubling” questions about Brown’s personal finances as detailed in the annual public filing all MPPs must make.

They include how Brown, who is 39 and single, could afford a $1.72 million mortgage on a $2.3 million Lake Simcoe waterfront home as first reported by the Star on Feb. 8.

“There are disconcerting patterns related to the member’s personal finances,” Hillier said in the complaint accusing Brown of violating the Members’ Integrity Act by not fully reporting all sources of income and gifts of “lavish” international travel with an intern believed to be his girlfriend.

“I’ve known Patrick Brown to lie just about every time he opens his mouth. We’re bringing it to the proper agencies to have it fully investigated and that due process is completed.”
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Old 02-20-2018, 05:38 PM   #129
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Either Patrick Brown is the unluckiest guy ever or where there's smoke, there's fire. To some degree I feel bad for this trial by public opinion, but to another degree at the very least so many of these politicians and people of that public ilk seem like genuinely selfish dbags. We all know politics can be dirty, but between what's going on in the States with investigations regarding Russia, and with what's going on in Canada at all levels with integrity being questioned at every turn, you do realize that most of these people are in it for the money and themselves. It's frankly utterly embarrassing when you're voting on the least hate-able person, or the person who appears to be the most genuine. I really wish as Canadians there would be restrictions on the money you can make once your political career is over so that you're not making money to help yourself or your friends. Grow the population as a whole and none of this me-first BS that most of these guys are all about, no matter what the party. Maybe take a page from what Iceland has done. What a joke this has become.
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Old 02-20-2018, 05:50 PM   #130
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So one of the allegations in the Hillier complaint is that Brown received a free trip to India in 2016 which he took his intern/girlfriend.

This sounds suspiciously similar to the allegations of the 2nd complaintants of the ongoing harassment after she returned to work at Browns office where Brown offered her a trip to India which did not appear to a professional trip.
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Old 02-21-2018, 07:47 AM   #131
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wonder why his own party hates him so much.
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Old 02-27-2018, 11:15 AM   #132
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Patrick Brown quits Ontario PC leadership race

The ousted former Progressive Conservative leader has abandoned his comeback bid to lead the party, saying he cannot run a campaign while fighting to clear his name.


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Old 02-27-2018, 12:13 PM   #133
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Patrick Brown quits Ontario PC leadership race

The ousted former Progressive Conservative leader has abandoned his comeback bid to lead the party, saying he cannot run a campaign while fighting to clear his name.

well duh!

he was stupid to enter again in the first place.
at least we can look forward to the CTV libel case.
any chance CTV caves and settles out of court?
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Old 02-27-2018, 12:16 PM   #134
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well duh!

he was stupid to enter again in the first place.
at least we can look forward to the CTV libel case.
any chance CTV caves and settles out of court?
I'd bet it gets settled as Brown just wants to be able to say he was right. The settlement will be sealed. I suspect it would only be around the specific allegation that the women was in high school and underage in a bar. Brown won't address any claims directly and will never be under oath.

I hope CTV doesn't cave though, apparently they have a third accuser as well who they didn't publish the details on.
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Old 02-27-2018, 08:58 PM   #135
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I dunno, something about this entire thing has seemed fishy to be...around CTV.

I wanna see him fight this to the bitter end, obviously I have no idea what happened but he sure has fought this vehemently from the beginning and CTV thus far seems to have either left important details out or backtracked in certain cases.

Just seems like bizarre behaviour by CTV for an allegation like this.
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Old 03-18-2018, 11:38 PM   #136
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Tin foil hat.

For those that didn't watch and just want the TL'DW: accuses a fixer of the current liberal gov't of arranging for the disposal of Patrick Brown as leader, so that they can run through a gambling casino run by money launderers from BC. The assumption is the current leader is more receptive to their aims.


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Old 04-29-2018, 11:46 PM   #137
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https://globalnews.ca/news/4161094/p...ation-lawsuit/

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Brown has filed a statement of claim that seeks damages of $8 million and an order that CTV remove all material in its possession that alleges Brown “illegally provided underage high school girl with alcohol.”
Link also has the full defamation suit notice, if a people want's to read over the lawyer speak. Paragraph 70-71 can be of interest, as well as 24-28, however the notice is full on lawyer-ese so not for everyone.
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Question for the lawyers, in the first few paragraphs of the complaint it only list the underage girl being of age being the issue. In the body it lists CTVs failing he talks about accuser 2.

So is Brown only suing CTV for saying the girl was underag or is it for the whole investigation?
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Old 05-01-2018, 08:17 AM   #139
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NAL, but if you read paragraphs 70-74, you get into the meat of the complaint. It's not so much for saying the girl was underage, but for saying what they did despite the fact they knew or should have known the girl was not underage, failing to mention the accounts of other people who challenged CTV's claims - which CTV should have had access to before their story was published - and for failing to disclose the fact that the CTV reporters who filed the story had personal relationships with the accusers.
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NAL, but if you read paragraphs 70-74, you get into the meat of the complaint. It's not so much for saying the girl was underage, but for saying what they did despite the fact they knew or should have known the girl was not underage, failing to mention the accounts of other people who challenged CTV's claims - which CTV should have had access to before their story was published - and for failing to disclose the fact that the CTV reporters who filed the story had personal relationships with the accusers.
My read of that is that 71-74 are the basis that CTV did not their job therefore defamed/libled him but the act of defamation/Libel was the the underage statement and not the whole story. No idea if that is the correct way to read the complaint though.
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