06-10-2015, 01:39 PM
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#1921
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Ferland - Jankowski - Smith
is a third line I'd like to see someday if everything pans out that way. The size is off the charts... Ferland and Smith want to hurt you and there would be some very good offensive instincts as well as physical and defensive play.
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06-10-2015, 02:11 PM
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#1922
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Location: Calgary
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Not sure why everyone wants to put grinders on Jankowski's line. I'd want to be trying skilled guys like Klimchuk and Shore on his line, personally.
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06-10-2015, 02:17 PM
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#1923
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Join Date: Jun 2011
Location: Calgary
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Originally Posted by GranteedEV
Not sure why everyone wants to put grinders on Jankowski's line. I'd want to be trying skilled guys like Klimchuk and Shore on his line, personally.
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Yeah, give the guy something to work with.
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06-10-2015, 02:19 PM
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#1924
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If Jankowski is assumed to be a 3rd line C, it's a defensive role, in large part. So maybe not grinders, but guys that fit that bill.
Ferland isn't a true grinder anyway - he has some skill.
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06-10-2015, 02:26 PM
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#1925
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Originally Posted by GioforPM
If Jankowski is assumed to be a 3rd line C, it's a defensive role, in large part. So maybe not grinders, but guys that fit that bill.
Ferland isn't a true grinder anyway - he has some skill.
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Not sure Smith is a grinder either actually.
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06-10-2015, 02:33 PM
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Could Care Less
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Ferland's definitely not a grinder. He's a 2-way power forward and if he continues to develop properly he's going to be a force.
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06-10-2015, 02:34 PM
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#1927
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I think it has the potential be great hybrid line where they can play the grinding game or a skilled game.
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06-10-2015, 02:42 PM
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#1928
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Igster
Not sure Smith is a grinder either actually.
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Quote:
Originally Posted by GioforPM
Ferland isn't a true grinder anyway - he has some skill.
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Yep, exactly this. Both of those guys are physical with good hands and a knack for shooting. No idea why anyone would label them as nothing but grinders. That is potentially a 3rd line with a lot of grit and some scoring ability.
With Monahan and Bennett centring our top two lines, it's unlikely Jankowski plays with pure scoring top six wingers, but those guys are no slouches offensively.
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06-10-2015, 03:24 PM
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#1929
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Join Date: Oct 2001
Location: Calgary, AB
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Originally Posted by Igster
Not sure Smith is a grinder either actually.
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Ferland can skate, Smith not so much. Not saying he can't improve his skating, but if he doesn't, I don't see him being more than a 4th line player on a deep team.
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06-10-2015, 03:45 PM
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#1930
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Join Date: Feb 2012
Location: Phoenix, AZ
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Originally Posted by Fire
Ferland can skate, Smith not so much. Not saying he can't improve his skating, but if he doesn't, I don't see him being more than a 4th line player on a deep team.
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I really think Smith can be one of the best 4th liners in the league if he pans out right. Hits, fights, and I don't think he is a liability with the puck.
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06-10-2015, 03:58 PM
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#1931
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Lifetime Suspension
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Originally Posted by Fire
Ferland can skate, Smith not so much. Not saying he can't improve his skating, but if he doesn't, I don't see him being more than a 4th line player on a deep team.
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He's a BIG guy with some pretty good hands. Yes, his skating needs improvement, but when he finally makes it to the NHL, I see him being a power forward with some offensive upside. I think he'll be much better than a 4th liner.
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06-14-2015, 03:36 PM
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#1932
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In the Sin Bin
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Originally Posted by Hackey
If your prospect base is weak you should be trying to make sure you land NHL players. Big swings and long projects is something a team with a deep prospect base can afford to do.
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That's one philosophy. It's certainly not the only viable one.
Some would argue you should swing for the highest upside players all the time. Some would argue you should always play it safe. Probably a mix of the two is the best strategy.
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06-14-2015, 03:52 PM
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#1933
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Join Date: Mar 2009
Location: Calgary
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Originally Posted by Flames Draft Watcher
Some would argue you should swing for the highest upside players all the time. Some would argue you should always play it safe. Probably a mix of the two is the best strategy.
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The guy who scouted Datsyuk, Zetterberg, Holmstrom, Nyquist, Kronwall, Franzen:
“The odds say 1.5 in seven make it [to the NHL],” he says. “The criticism is I go too much for the home run.
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My joke is [Ken Holland] can pick up the phone [any time] and find a fourth-line player or a seventh [defenseman]. So why not swing for the fences?”
http://www.si.com/nhl/2015/03/19/hak...-feature-story
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06-14-2015, 04:04 PM
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#1934
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None of those guys are first round picks other than Kronwall and he was a 29th overall pick. I agree with taking risks but personally feel that should be more for later rounds. Since the 1st round is your greatest probability of finding an NHL player I think it's important to hit on them.
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06-14-2015, 05:17 PM
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#1935
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Join Date: Mar 2009
Location: Calgary
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Since the 1st round is your greatest probability of finding an NHL player I think it's important to hit on them.
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Since the 1st round is your greatest probability of finding an NHL player, more often than not even a risky pick (like Joe Colborne) can still end up being a decent NHLer even if he doesn't live up to his full potential.
Don't forget, Baertschi was considered a very "safe" pick when he was taken and he was still a bust (for the Flames). That he didn't have any other high-end tool to make a case for himself ended up being his downfall rather than anything inherently wrong with his game.
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06-14-2015, 05:33 PM
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#1936
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#1 Goaltender
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Ok.
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06-14-2015, 09:40 PM
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#1937
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Quote:
Originally Posted by GranteedEV
The guy who scouted Datsyuk, Zetterberg, Holmstrom, Nyquist, Kronwall, Franzen:
“The odds say 1.5 in seven make it [to the NHL],” he says. “The criticism is I go too much for the home run.
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My joke is [Ken Holland] can pick up the phone [any time] and find a fourth-line player or a seventh [defenseman]. So why not swing for the fences?”
http://www.si.com/nhl/2015/03/19/hak...-feature-story
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The NHL needs more Hakan's.
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06-24-2015, 06:17 PM
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#1938
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Draft Pick
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Looks like Jankowski is in Calgary now. Posted a video of him on the WinSport ice on Instagram. There was talk of him being here the whole summer. Last year there was a group of Flames prospects that had ice times and trained at WinSport and it looks like they are doing it again.
Should be good both for development and for the NCAA player to feel more connected to Calgary.
Link to video of him stick handling: https://instagram.com/janko61_/
WinSport ice schedule: http://www.winsport.ca/aboutwinsport...esbookings.cfm
Looks like they have ice mid-day certain days throughout the summer.
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06-24-2015, 06:47 PM
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#1939
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#1 Goaltender
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Show off.
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06-24-2015, 09:41 PM
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#1940
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Oct 2001
Location: Flames fan in Seattle
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Lame at the bad taste comments.
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