Aretha Franklin greatest singer in rock era: poll

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Franklin, 66, came in ahead of Ray Charles at No. 2, Elvis Presley at No. 3, Sam Cooke at No. 4 and John Lennon at No. 5, according to the magazine's survey of 179 musicians, producers, Rolling Stone editors, and other music-industry insiders.

interesting.

http://music.yahoo.com/read/news/61852568

[troutman]

Hey nineteen
Thats 'retha franklin
She dont remember
The queen of soul
Its hard times befallen
The sole survivors
She thinks Im crazy
But Im just growing old

[ok, ok,....I get it]

I don't agree....First off she was not a "rock" singer, can you see her belting out the Immagrant Song? "I COME FROM A LAND OF ICE AND SNOW".....no neither can I

Is she the best jazz/blues/R & B singer possible...she has legs, but what about Ella F., she could rip.

The problem is this is apples and oranges.

[rubecube]

No Freddie Mercury? What gives?

[ok, ok,....I get it]

or Robert Plant, David Bowie, dudes from Blue Rodeo, or DLR.....we must not forget him!

[peter12]

Originally Posted by ok, ok,....I get it

I don't agree....First off she was not a "rock" singer, can you see her belting out the Immagrant Song? "I COME FROM A LAND OF ICE AND SNOW".....no neither can I

Is she the best jazz/blues/R & B singer possible...she has legs, but what about Ella F., she could rip.

The problem is this is apples and oranges.

She's totally rock and roll.

Meanwhile in North Alabama, Aretha Franklin comes to town
To record that sweet soul music, to get that Muscle Shoals sound

Meanwhile in North Alabama, Lynyrd Skynyrd came to town
To record with Jimmy Johnson at Muscle Shoals Sound

The Mussel Shoals in Northern Alabama has always been a musical hub where rock and roll'ers and soul artists have met to produce and listen to each other's music.

Soul and blues is the inspiration for modern rock and roll. Go talk to Jimmy Page or Robert Plant and see what they tell you.

[ok, ok,....I get it]

Originally Posted by peter12

She's totally rock and roll.

Meanwhile in North Alabama, Aretha Franklin comes to town
To record that sweet soul music, to get that Muscle Shoals sound

Meanwhile in North Alabama, Lynyrd Skynyrd came to town
To record with Jimmy Johnson at Muscle Shoals Sound

The Mussel Shoals in Northern Alabama has always been a musical hub where rock and roll'ers and soul artists have met to produce and listen to each other's music.

Soul and blues is the inspiration for modern rock and roll. Go talk to Jimmy Page or Robert Plant and see what they tell you.

Ok, listen, i agree with you about the "roots" of Rock....Keith Richards made a good little living borrowing from blues......But is she rock, your own qoute talks about "soul" music...just because rock grew out of blues et al. does not mean that blues et al. musician are by extension rock musicians.

One guy that did bridge the "gap" gap was Ottis Redding.

[peter12]

Originally Posted by ok, ok,....I get it

Ok, listen, i agree with you about the "roots" of Rock....Keith Richards made a good little living borrowing from blues......But is she rock, your own qoute talks about "soul" music...just because rock grew out of blues et al. does not mean that blues et al. musician are by extension rock musicians.

One guy that did bridge the "gap" gap was Ottis Redding.

Well, if you listen to Franklin, her backing is totally the same backing as Lynyrd Skynrd. Besides, once you get down to it, what is rock anyway? Isn't rock just a means of expressing yourself and throwing away stale cultural conventions in favour of reinvention? That fits Aretha Franklin pretty well.

[ok, ok,....I get it]

Originally Posted by peter12

Well, if you listen to Franklin, her backing is totally the same backing as Lynyrd Skynrd. Besides, once you get down to it, what is rock anyway? Isn't rock just a means of expressing yourself and throwing away stale cultural conventions in favour of reinvention? That fits Aretha Franklin pretty well.

I thought rock was women, alcholol and drugs..

So all music is rock music or ..... you lost me

[peter12]

Originally Posted by ok, ok,....I get it

I thought rock was women, alcholol and drugs..

So all music is rock music or ..... you lost me

I think a certain subsection of music is all rock and roll music. But really, at the rate that everything just influences one another, I see that the rock ethos is more about individuality and invention. So, I suppose from a certain perspective, all music could potentially be rock, it's just good that we invented the electric guitar.

[ok, ok,....I get it]

Originally Posted by peter12

I think a certain subsection of music is all rock and roll music. But really, at the rate that everything just influences one another, I see that the rock ethos is more about individuality and invention. So, I suppose from a certain perspective, all music could potentially be rock, it's just good that we invented the electric guitar.

Like?

[flip]

Anything that is conducted by Rolling Stone is complete BS. They are the worst music publication EVER.

They've always made the controversial picks for the sake of being controversial. And yet sold out so quickly in the mid to late 90s. I effing hate Rolling Stone. Any magazine that gave Zeppelin I a bad review deserves to wiped off the face of the earth.

[peter12]

Originally Posted by ok, ok,....I get it

Like?

Hahaha, I don't know. But it seems that there are huge comparisons and similarities in style and lyrics by such a huge diversity of artists, it really makes me think that all genre lines are really false.

[ok, ok,....I get it]

Originally Posted by peter12

Hahaha, I don't know. But it seems that there are huge comparisons and similarities in style and lyrics by such a huge diversity of artists, it really makes me think that all genre lines are really false.

Peter you wre doing so well......I once read and argument that all currect music can be traced to Robert J.

BTW, I loved your brother's show.

[peter12]

Originally Posted by ok, ok,....I get it

Peter you wre doing so well......I once read and argument that all currect music can be traced to Robert J.

BTW, I loved your brother's show.

Brother's show? Different Peter?

[ok, ok,....I get it]

Originally Posted by peter12

Brother's show? Different Peter?

No Adam12......you have the same last name so I thought....

[peter12]

Originally Posted by ok, ok,....I get it

No Adam12......you have the same last name so I thought....

Haha, no. But I'm sure it was a good show.

[ok, ok,....I get it]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wrdbgYYBnvI

it was bitchin'

[redforever]

Originally Posted by ok, ok,....I get it

I don't agree....First off she was not a "rock" singer, can you see her belting out the Immagrant Song? "I COME FROM A LAND OF ICE AND SNOW".....no neither can I

Is she the best jazz/blues/R & B singer possible...she has legs, but what about Ella F., she could rip.

The problem is this is apples and oranges.

Aretha could and still can belt out rock and roll but she is firstly, the queen of soul. Those were her roots as evidenced in this video.

Here are the queens of soul, Aretha Franklin, Sarah Vaughn, Roberta Flack and Peggy Lee. Add in Ella Fitzgerald, maybe Pearl Bailey and you have talent without end.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3Z_bOPntfPA

[ok, ok,....I get it]

Originally Posted by redforever

Aretha could and still can belt out rock and roll but she is firstly, the queen of soul. Those were her roots as evidenced in this video.

Here are the queens of soul, Aretha Franklin, Sarah Vaughn, Roberta Flack and Peggy Lee. Add in Ella Fitzgerald, maybe Pearl Bailey and you have talent without end.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3Z_bOPntfPA

i agree she is the queen of soul......