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Old 01-14-2021, 05:08 PM   #41
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Strawman away, good sir.
Ok Mr. Progressive Champion, tell us how America is going to suddenly be to the left of Canada. Would love to hear how it happens. And not what you want to happen, tells us how it actually happens and remember you have to consider it's America even if you want it to be more like another Western country.
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Old 01-14-2021, 05:09 PM   #42
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Hmmm, yup, this is an American politics thread all right. It's got everything!
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Old 01-14-2021, 05:12 PM   #43
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Anyway. The brunch lady has other funnier videos.

https://twitter.com/deadeyebrakeman/...149676032?s=20
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Old 01-14-2021, 05:13 PM   #44
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He’s throwing $15 minimum wage into a bail out bill? That’s a good way to get it filibustered, then use that as an excuse to go nuclear.

So back to politics as usual.
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Old 01-14-2021, 05:22 PM   #45
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Breakfast in a restaurant is such a rip off, and brunch is way worse. How much are these orange slices?
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Let the infighting between the victors begin!
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Old 01-14-2021, 05:26 PM   #47
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I blame myself. I said the B-word in another thread, and shortly after this popped up.

Also, have you seen this dancing baby!? Outrageous!

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Old 01-14-2021, 05:35 PM   #48
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Ok Mr. Progressive Champion, tell us how America is going to suddenly be to the left of Canada. Would love to hear how it happens. And not what you want to happen, tells us how it actually happens and remember you have to consider it's America even if you want it to be more like another Western country.
You're still doing it.
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Old 01-14-2021, 05:40 PM   #49
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You're still doing it.
Love you too buddy.
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Old 01-14-2021, 05:58 PM   #50
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Didn't really know where to put this. Could have gone in the IDW thread I guess but just...sigh.

https://twitter.com/user/status/1349764636288151554

Here's the article in question. Surprise, surprise, Ben thinks impeachment is just the libs out to get conservatives.

https://www.politico.com/newsletters...achment-491399
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Old 01-14-2021, 06:28 PM   #51
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Breakfast in a restaurant is such a rip off, and brunch is way worse. How much are these orange slices?
Brunch buffets are so expensive because people like me take 30 strips of bacon on their first round, and go back for another 20 or so a couple more times. Orange slices? Pfttt. Taking up bacon space.
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I would have gone with... Unpresidented: The normal is the new normal
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Tulsi Gabbard should have been the democratic candidate. It’s ####ing whack that to get back to a reasonable state in American politics it’s Biden and Harris.
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Breakfast in a restaurant is such a rip off, and brunch is way worse. How much are these orange slices?
My favourite is the fruit side.

Hey hereís 8 cantaloupe, 2 honeydew and one grape. Enjoy!

It makes me want to burn the place to the ground. Itís actually an outrage. Nobody gets it right.
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Tulsi Gabbard should have been the democratic candidate. It’s ####ing whack that to get back to a reasonable state in American politics it’s Biden and Harris.
How do you figure?

Gabbard was a very weak candidate throughout her whole campaign, and her policies on anything other than foreign policy were nearly non-existent. Not to mention she was sort of a Republican in disguise.

Instead you have a guy who has served in the executive branch in the past, who has passed meaningful legislation before, and already has clear plans for how to recover from the current disaster, especially economically. Don't forget, he was a key planner to the economic recovery in 2008.

Kamala Harris will also be key to reforming the justice department after Trump did his best to gut it from the inside out. Law and order will hopefully be restored in a non-partisan way. Merrick Garland is a good start to that.



Seriously...Tulsi Gabbard? What a strange hill to make your stand on.


Edit: Also...Fuzz, buddy? Less bacon, dude. You'll thank me when you live past 60.
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Tulsi Gabbard should have been the democratic candidate. Itís ####ing whack that to get back to a reasonable state in American politics itís Biden and Harris.
Russian asset Tulsi Gabbard?
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Is Centrist now a bad name? I thought the US was a bit loony for thinking "socialism" was an insult...
Meant to respond to this. No, not on its own it isn't. It's just a description of where someone falls on the political spectrum.

My issue with SOME centrists is their insistence on half-measures that intend to placate both sides in the name of compromise or pragmatism. There are a number of problems with this, especially in terms of American politics:

1) Many centrists fall victim to the fallacy of false-compromise, also know as "the right answer must be somewhere in the middle of the extreme positions," or some variation of this.

2) The Overton window in the U.S. has been dragged so far right by the extremists who have hijacked the Republican, that compromises often end up being, at best, centre-right policies.

3) Placating GOP voters is very rarely an effective strategy for winning elections. They tend to be about as tribal and partisan as it gets.

4) The half-measures centrists implement can do more harm than good. There are some instances where either the left or right policy positions are the correct ones, but the centrist approach provides us with a watered down version that is ineffective and/or worse from a policy perspective, but has the effect of creating hostility towards the policy position they're watering down (e.g. Mayor Pete's poorly thought out "Medicare for all who want it" plan).

5) #4 can be particularly damaging if it's a watered down version of a leftist policy or program which advocates for greater government interventions. If these government programs end up being ineffective or poorly administered, it feeds the narrative pushed by the right that government intervention is bad, thereby contributing to #2.

6) Because of #s 1-5 many progressives/populist leftists feel disenfranchised politically, which inevitably leads to either apathy, nihilism, or radicalization. This can often lead to lower voter turnout from leftists, which then perpetuates this whole cycle.

7) Because centrist economic policies are essentially centre-right to right-wing in nature, they have quite often contributed to the economic devastation of the working class, which has been a major factor in the rise of Trumpism and right-wing populism in general (right-wing populism is essentially a gateway to fascism but I'm trying to be charitable).
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Edit: Also...Fuzz, buddy? Less bacon, dude. You'll thank me when you live past 60.
Is it really living though?
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Edit: Also...Fuzz, buddy? Less bacon, dude. You'll thank me when you live past 60.
Maybe leave the health/nutrition tips up to real doctors .

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