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Old 07-24-2019, 02:11 PM   #141
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Not required to go to arbitration hearing. As long as there is a case is scheduled the 2nd buyout window will open after the team's last arbitration case is closed (either settled or ruling).

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Old 07-24-2019, 03:17 PM   #142
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They have to get to the cap somehow and buying out Stone, as foolish as that would be, probably doesnít get it done.

And doesnít Treliving want to be able to add some kind of salary at the deadline?
Agreed we should move Frolik if the price is right, but in the event he's on the team night 1 I'd rather see him with Chucky/Backs than I would Bennett
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Old 07-24-2019, 03:40 PM   #143
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Nah. Top 4 dmen are always in high demand. Brodie wonít be dealt unless itís for a decent return.
Thatís pretty subjective as to a good return. Some people thought Stone would fetch a 2nd round pick in offseason.

Yeah Brodie gets you back more than a Frolik but weíre talking about shedding salary and maximizing value.
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Old 07-24-2019, 04:01 PM   #144
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Thatís pretty subjective as to a good return. Some people thought Stone would fetch a 2nd round pick in offseason..
Has anyone actually said this? Has more than one person said this continually? The search function is limited on this website but I did a search of Stone + 2nd round and it didn't turn up much, one guy was suggesting Stone for a 6th during the season.

Think I've seen bring it up derisively a couple times recently and it almost comes across as some strawman attempt to belittle some opinions. Not saying that's your goal but comes across that way.

As for clearing space, cap, Brodie frolik etc.. Brodie is a clear value player. You hold him for value, value he clearly has as was shown by the nixed Kadri deal.
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Old 07-24-2019, 04:37 PM   #145
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Has anyone actually said this? Has more than one person said this continually? The search function is limited on this website but I did a search of Stone + 2nd round and it didn't turn up much, one guy was suggesting Stone for a 6th during the season.

Think I've seen bring it up derisively a couple times recently and it almost comes across as some strawman attempt to belittle some opinions. Not saying that's your goal but comes across that way.

As for clearing space, cap, Brodie frolik etc.. Brodie is a clear value player. You hold him for value, value he clearly has as was shown by the nixed Kadri deal.
I will let anyone defend their view of Stoneís worth and not going to speak for them. I was in several discussions stating he had little to no value and was told guys like Stone have great value. If I donít remember correctly then I apologize or maybe those posters have changed their tune. It happens.

Of course Brodie has value.

But trading Frolik for cap space is trading from a weakness. The forward depth is iffy compared to defense.
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Old 07-24-2019, 04:54 PM   #146
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But trading Frolik for cap space is trading from a weakness. The forward depth is iffy compared to defense.
The roster is teeming with LHS forwards who can do much of what Fro can do if given the opportunity. You lose a Frolik and you can plop a Dube, Mangiapane, Jankowski, maybe even Alan Quine there. Fro is exactly the kind of forward we have in excess IMO... I just don't think he's as valuable as his counting stats and two way reputation suggest. I think his skillset is very well-represented on our team by players who haven't had the benefit of Matthew Tkachuk and Mikael Backlund as regular linemates.
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But trading Frolik for cap space is trading from a weakness. The forward depth is iffy compared to defense.
I like Frolik but with one year left on his deal he's probably a guy that was going to be moved regardless.
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Old 07-24-2019, 06:01 PM   #148
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So the last Flames case is Rittich, which is scheduled for Monday. Will be nice to have a lot of the stuff done before the end of the Month. I comfortable with Tkachuk not signing until late August or early September. That is just the way it is with all those RFAs.
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Old 07-24-2019, 06:06 PM   #149
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The Flames released a short video of Bennett just in time for his arbitration hearing. Quite the beast in the video!

https://twitter.com/user/status/1154164355526774785
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Old 07-24-2019, 06:10 PM   #150
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Get Rittich signed by Friday, Stone bought out by Monday and now its all about Tkachuk.
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