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Old 09-20-2020, 06:15 PM   #1281
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Khan is great, itís to bad schools don't seem to be embracing existing educational resources.

At this age I agree itís more about socialization, or perhaps itís more likely childcare. The Alberta curriculum for our kids (all elementary) is pretty easy, and weíll be done before Xmas. Not that my kids are so advanced, itís just that itís so much more efficient to go one-on-one compared to a teacher having 20-25 kids at once.

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We did it back in the spring when the CBE was still trying to figure out how to do remote education. With the resources like Khan Academy, it's not hard to come with grade-appropriate lessons and a curriculum.

My kids are back to school in person, but they're complaining that the lessons are stuff they learned a grade ago. I expect much of the next couple months will just be catch-up, and my kids get easily bored sitting though stuff they know. So we're thinking of going back to Khan and pulling up the math and science stuff they were doing, which is well ahead of what's being taught in their classes right now.

Maybe things will change in high school, but I'm coming about to the conclusion that the function of K-9 education is socialization and structure, and that you have to come up with your own lessons to academically challenge kids who like to learn.
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Old 09-23-2020, 11:06 PM   #1282
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Well, my point is that it was, in fact, completely manageable to have systems and protocols in place by the time school started. There are two main keys to this happening:

1) was to start planning for the eventuality of a return to in-class school... which everyone should have realized was an eventuality, right around the time schools closed in March.

2) was to start planning and then not stop planning until it was ready; even if that means working on the plan in - gasp - July.

I would estimate that about 90% of the systems and protocols are easily scaled and deployable, say in the case of a large school board... Which is to say that planning for 1200 students at one school isn't all that different that planning for 125,000 students at 100s of schools when you're talking about protocols that are mostly repeatable and applicable in most situations. You could also argue that the school board in charge of 125,000 students has far more resources to tackle such a challenge, than the single school with an admin team of, say, 14.

To be clear, I'm not pointing the finger at teachers, but as Sliver said, "the entire system had 16 weeks"...
The Teachers are also victims here. But they're not victims of the Provincial Government, or of lack of funding. They're victims of the fundamental basis of 'The System.'

Nobody sacked up and took responsibility and pointed anyone in the right direction. It was everyone for themselves.

Teachers have the right to want to point fingers at those responsible. Unfortunately...so does everyone else and that seems to be what has pre-occupied their time.

I wonder if there were better ways to apply that time?
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Old 09-24-2020, 08:31 AM   #1283
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I watch what is happening in BC and I wish we were doing anything close to their online program.
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Old 09-24-2020, 08:06 PM   #1284
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I watch what is happening in BC and I wish we were doing anything close to their online program.
What is their program like?
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UCalgary announced their plans for winter term yesterday (in conjunction with the other two large research universities in Alberta). They will continue to offer a blend of in person and online learning, hopefully with a slight increase in the amount of in person. A cautious approach but I suppose it is a slight positive if we can get to more in person components.

https://www.ucalgary.ca/news/update-winter-term
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Old 09-25-2020, 10:05 AM   #1286
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What is their program like?
They have daily school online with class time and live lessons 9-12 (with a break or two in their for "recess"), lunch, parent led PE, then 2:30-4:00 is open time with the teacher. one on one support is booked at this time as well. They have EAs, as my sister's son gets one, who works with him all afternoon when 1:1 withe teacher isn't available. It mimics a regular school day far closer. Plus they did a bulk school division purchase of google books and my sis got in on it and it was way cheaper.

Now keep in mind BC also hired 600 teachers to help solve this problem.

Also both kids online classes are below 25, grades 4 & 7.
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Old 09-25-2020, 02:18 PM   #1287
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They have daily school online with class time and live lessons 9-12 (with a break or two in their for "recess"), lunch, parent led PE, then 2:30-4:00 is open time with the teacher. one on one support is booked at this time as well. They have EAs, as my sister's son gets one, who works with him all afternoon when 1:1 withe teacher isn't available. It mimics a regular school day far closer. Plus they did a bulk school division purchase of google books and my sis got in on it and it was way cheaper.

Now keep in mind BC also hired 600 teachers to help solve this problem.

Also both kids online classes are below 25, grades 4 & 7.
Wow. I'm getting a lot of pushback with ~1 live hour of instruction a day. I can't imagine planning & prepping for 4 1/2. I wonder if they're doing a lot of central prep and teachers are just rolling out the same lessons across the board. Seems like with that much live instruction you wouldn't have time to prep anything or even look at what students were handing in.
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Wow. I'm getting a lot of pushback with ~1 live hour of instruction a day. I can't imagine planning & prepping for 4 1/2. I wonder if they're doing a lot of central prep and teachers are just rolling out the same lessons across the board. Seems like with that much live instruction you wouldn't have time to prep anything or even look at what students were handing in.
My understanding is the morning sessions are a blend of work time where the teacher is accessible for guidance and direct lesson time (similar to what a regular classroom would look like). The afternoon is not planned for it is for one on one supports, teacher access for help, general questions etc. I don't think it would be anymore taxing than working in a regular classroom but I am not living it. They may be doing some central planning but to be honest I am not a JHS or elementary specialist so my understanding of that classroom setting is limited.
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I think this belongs here. Students, Parents hold rally for return of sport in high school.

https://calgary.ctvnews.ca/lethbridg...orts-1.5120129
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I think this belongs here. Students, Parents hold rally for return of sport in high school.

https://calgary.ctvnews.ca/lethbridg...orts-1.5120129
I think these people are crazy.

We're still fighting to make things safe to go to school to learn...adding sports seems like a low priority at the moment.

The caveat to that of course is that Lethbridge is in a whole different world in terms of COVID.

My daughter goes to school in Lethbridge and its like they're living in their own isolated little bubble down there. She is always amazed at the restrictions and precautions being taken in Calgary when she comes home because in Lethbridge its basically life as normal.

So I dont know...maybe they can make sports work in Lethbridge?

All of these rallies....man, we got to get people back to work. Too much free time for rallies. Maybe there should be a stipulation that if you're collecting CERB you are legally prohibited from attending rallies.
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Club sports are happening with 50 person cohorts so loosely 4 teams per division that play eachother.


There is no reason that sports like volleyball and basketball couldnít be played with single grade teams and cohorts schools at a lower risk level that club teams are taking.

I donít know how you do football.
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Club sports are happening with 50 person cohorts so loosely 4 teams per division that play eachother.


There is no reason that sports like volleyball and basketball couldnít be played with single grade teams and cohorts schools at a lower risk level that club teams are taking.
Thatís how club basketball is going ahead.
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Old 09-29-2020, 09:02 AM   #1293
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Club sports are happening with 50 person cohorts so loosely 4 teams per division that play eachother.


There is no reason that sports like volleyball and basketball couldnít be played with single grade teams and cohorts schools at a lower risk level that club teams are taking.

I donít know how you do football.
Just play 1 game every 2 weeks.
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Old 09-29-2020, 05:29 PM   #1294
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My kid's school is getting decimated by a cold right now. My one kid go sick late last week, tested negative for Corona and basically recovered by yesterday. Missed school on Friday and Monday. Of course my other kid got sick yesterday and had to get tested today. Apparently there was only 5 kids in his friends class today because everyone else was home sick.
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Yeah, my son had 5 kids out sick today and my younger daughter's class had 6 out today.
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Sooooooo…. it's October 1 and for all intents and purposes were are one month into the school year.

Overall cases have stayed low, and community spread in schools appears to be relatively minimal. Personally, we've had kids with symptoms who have had to stay home (and have since tested negative for Covid), which is annoying but not the end of the world either. School has otherwise seemed pretty normal and masks don't seem to be an issue or interfering with learning. Not sure how the teachers are holding up but I have to think it's been a reasonable success so far? Not perfect, but that was never the goal anyways...

Once cold and flu season really hits we'll see where things stand, but so far so good IMO...
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Alberta has never recorded more cases of COVID-19 among school-aged kids and teens than it did over the past week.

Data from Alberta Health shows the number of new daily cases has continued to rise among five- to nine-year-olds and has shot up, especially, among 10- to 19-year-olds.

In-person classes resumed at many schools in Alberta on Sept. 1 and for several weeks the number of new daily cases had been on the decline.

That changed during the last week in September, when cases start to rise.

In early October, that trend has continued, with an average of 45 cases per day among school-aged kids and teens over the past week on record.
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I guess kids and teenagers aren't immune like many said.
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This is the graph I was posting in the other thread.

I was incorrectly misinterpreting it as the gap between kids and adults being representative of the difference in rates of transmission of each group.

Instead it was correctly pointed out that it is rather meaningless without base lining it against testing.

The first large slope increase is clearly before it could be attributed to the presence of kids in schools. It occurs between sept 1 and sept 8. So it’s clearly parents getting kids tested and kids tests being prioritized.

The second slope is the bigger question. Is it driven by in school spread or just a reflection of increased community spread. 27 reports of in school transmission.

What’s interesting in the article is they breakdown positive test rates. The week ending 9-Sep had a 1.7% positive rate among children. None of these would have been school based cases given the incubation period of the virus. The week ending 7-oct has a 1.26% positive rate.

So I don’t think we have the data to show if Schools are currently an issue relative to the rest of the community. What we do know is that testing went from 12,000 week of Sep 9 and 25000 Oct 7 while infection rate has gone down.

And schools relative to community is really all that matters in answering the question of are the current safeguards and protocols adequate.

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We got email on Thursday from Queen E about a case at the school. Not many details except school and AHS is in touch with those affected.
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I guess kids and teenagers aren't immune like many said.
I don't think anyone claimed kids were immune to Covid.

The report I saw also mentioned that most of the cases were likely acquired outside the school environment and the numbers of in school spread are still low.
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